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    Newbie - First Cycle

    Hi there,

    24 years old (male), 5ft 11", 175Ibs, been working out (naturally) for around 3 years, seriously for somwhere between a year and a half and 2 years. Went from 150Ibs to 175Ibs on lots of whey protein to begin with. Started using some creatine, n.o. xplode and more recently testesterone "enhancers" (Norateen by LA Muscle). Feel like I am hitting a brick wall trying to get up over 180. I eat 6 meals a day, plus my shakes, normally have a slow releasing protein shake, plus Norateen lately, before I go to sleep. I am dabbling with the idea of trying steroids. I've researched it alot online for the past few months, which led me to lurking on this forum. The problem with researching steroids is that people have different experiences or sides with them, so it's hard to decide what would be best for me.

    I don't want to get scary big, just looking for another 15Ibs or so. And I want to build the mass gradually, not quickly. Var seems like a good 'mild' option, but from what people tell me, it doesn't have much good effect by itself. Winstrol also seems like a possibility and like Var would be easy to get from my source. Tbol seems very good for what I am looking to achieve, but my source said it would be very difficult to get, which rules it out. And yes, they are all oral versions I am talking about and I know you need to be careful about your liver (shorter cycles), especially with orals, but they seem like less hassle to me than injections and also because I am not looking for massivem and/or fast gains.

    That said, one person I discussed this with suggested that I try a 12 week cycle of Deca, two injections per week, and then get on Clomid after I finish the cycle to try and get my natural testestorone back to "base". Would this be a wise choice of steroid? I've searched the forum thoroughly on threads about Deca. The most worrying aspect is, I guess, "deca dick". As it is, I wake up with heavy duty morning wood every day, and have done for the last decade+ of my life, haha, but as I read about Deca, it tells me that it completely suppresses your natural testestorone, hence the clomid after the cycle is over. So yeah, the threads I read were helpful in some respects and not in others, but opinions seems to be split right down the middle with this steroid. One person recommends Deca on it's own and the next says it is a bad idea. I realise that opinions and personal experiences are going to differ, but I guess I am just looking for a little more advice before I "turn to the darkside".

    So yeah, a recommendation for first steroid use, to make decent and steady, not huge and fast, size and strength gains, along with any other drugs I'd need to combat any unwanted sides attributed to that steroid would be appreciated. Like I said, I keep researching, but read one thing, then the other. Very confusing...

    Sorry for the novel btw. I look forward to some advice, if you can spare the time.


    P.S. I am looking to keep training naturally for another 4 - 6 months and persevere with diet and supplements before I take the initial plunge...
    Last edited by nilrac; 02-15-2007 at 10:12 AM.

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