home from the ER room

[pwerfll1]

i posted a thread {kidney stones} but need some more opinions maybe bad title so here it is . hey bros well just got back home after a 4 day stay in the ER room,whent in for severe kidney pain. to make a long story short, they found out about the juice! so after a few hours of test they find out i have a irregular heart beat which i never had my cholesterol was high along with my blood pressure,they say the stones are built up from protien? they recomend stopping my cycle or things may get worst what do u guys think? they gave me perks for pain and prednisone [steroids} to slowley get me off my cycle my wifes freekin out saying i told u so any suggestions.

[testisbest]

Start PCT ASAP. Sorry to hear about that. I went throught the exact same thing except I was in the Navy when it happened. Very painful. Went from 208 to 170 in less than a year.

[pwerfll1]

ya it sucks

[dhriscerr]

I think you weren't monitoring your Blood pressure like you were suppose too. Also Cholestrol is going to get higher, but how incheck was your diet??? Not sure that juice will cause irregular heartbeat but it might? And as for stopping cycle or not, ill wait for a senior member to answer.

[pwerfll1]

diet is good but i cheat once in a while not lookin to be Arnold

[testisbest]

4 days in the hospital and nobody will answer if he should stop his cycle or not? Sounds like an easy answer for me. Pwerfll1, I had to have numerous stints put in all the "pipes" coming in and out of my kidney because of all of the build up. The flow was restricted entering and exiting my kidney so anytime I consumed fluids, when it reached my kidneys I would get sever swelling and it put pressure on my colon. Not fun. I'd suggest PCT and a healthy lifestyle. Sorry if that's not what you want to hear.

[pwerfll1]

nope its not the answer i was lookin for lol

[testisbest]

been on test once or twice since then with 0 problems. Don't know what caused it, I stayed on cycle for 6 months while I was in Japan and when I got back Stateside the sh*t hit the fan. I got an Other than Honorable Discharge from the service for being on the juice. My test levels might have been a "little" high. But like I said, no problems now.

[pwerfll1]

it sucks what to do hmmmm ?WHERES MY JUICE!

[pwerfll1]

4 days in the hospital and nobody will answer if he should stop his cycle or not? Sounds like an easy answer for me. Pwerfll1, I had to have numerous stints put in all the "pipes" coming in and out of my kidney because of all of the build up. The flow was restricted entering and exiting my kidney so anytime I consumed fluids, when it reached my kidneys I would get sever swelling and it put pressure on my colon. Not fun. I'd suggest PCT and a healthy lifestyle. Sorry if that's not what you want to hear.

this is my second time with these f-in stones wasn't on a cycle last time

[BITTAPART2]

your doctor had an excuse at hand and used it...juice...probably not the culprit IMO dehyration/ excessive drinking of soda/sweet tea/some tap water/too much calcium all could be the culprit for stones. protein intake blah blah. cholesterol will be higher if on cycle or on AI's and the heartbeat could be from heredity or deit pills or any number of things. what was your bp reading? mine is always a bit higher on cycle but still I have my doubts that the juice had anything to do w/ the kidney stones. drink more water and half those problems wouldnt be there..bp and stones

[pwerfll1]

i drink at least 1.5 gallons ed i dont drink soda or any of that crap

[BITTAPART2]

tap water?

[pwerfll1]

i drink at least 1.5 gallons ed i dont drink soda or any of that crap

162/80 but at discharge it was145/75

[pwerfll1]

nope

[pwerfll1]

just store bought but even then ya never know what that is either

[texasmk4]

i've had kidney stone in the past it's not a joke!!

[Maldorf]

Im wondering why the prescribed prednisone. Thats a corticosteroid used to fight inflamation and allergic responses. It is catabolic and is just the opposite of anabolic steroids. That will gobble up your muscle and make you retain water and fat. Jerry Lewis is on that and he looks like a big fat chipmonk. Ive been on it before and if on it for just a short time its not too bad. They give you a reason why you are to take it? It wont help at all coming off your AAS.

[magic32]

i posted a thread {kidney stones} but need some more opinions maybe bad title so here it is . hey bros well just got back home after a 4 day stay in the ER room,whent in for severe kidney pain. to make a long story short, they found out about the juice! so after a few hours of test they find out i have a irregular heart beat which i never had my cholesterol was high along with my blood pressure,they say the stones are built up from protien? they recomend stopping my cycle or things may get worst what do u guys think? they gave me perks for pain and prednisone [steroids} to slowley get me off my cycle my wifes freekin out saying i told u so any suggestions.

That was no doubt erroneously deduced based your admission of excessive intake. You need to do some research on causes, here's a start:
http://www.medicinenet.com/kidney_stone/article.htm
http://www.healthnewsflash.com/condi...php#whatcauses
http://www.kidneyurology.org/Patient...dneyStones.htm

I’m not advocating the continuation of your cycle as there are obviously multiple factors to consider, but I will state definitively that neither it nor protein should be implicated in the generation of kidney stones. As you peruse research material you’ll be hard pressed to even find the words "protein" or "hormones" in relation to stone origin. Far more likely are the terms "we don't know", heredity, Urinary tract infection, calcium, and lack of water.

Gotta run,

M.

[pwerfll1]

thanx for all your input and i agree 100%! i drink 1- 1.5 gallons a day of water as far as the prednisone thats allready in the trash the dr pretty much told my wife what she wanted to hear which i think is BS

[Maldorf]

thanx for all your input and i agree 100%! i drink 1- 1.5 gallons a day of water as far as the prednisone thats allready in the trash the dr pretty much told my wife what she wanted to hear which i think is BS

glad to hear. That prednisone sucks ass. So you think they had you take the prednisone so that your chances of getting off AAS would be greater because you would believe it would be an aid? Terrible thing they did if that is the reason, not ethical at all. Never and sound medical reason given for the prednisone?

[gdubb216]

not sure if this if this is relevent but what did your present cycle look like.? And your past ones?

[pwerfll1]

1cycle was plannin week 1-4 dbol 50mg/day
1-12 500mg/week test e split dose 2 a week have nolva and chlomid ready

[SMCengineer]

How many weeks into your cycle?

[frank12391]

If you have kidney stones at the first stage of development, AAS use would cause them increase more rapidly. You cannot conclusively say it was the AAS that initially caused them. That's only the doctors professional opinion.

[pwerfll1]

3 weaks in

[SMCengineer]

Have you at least dropped the dbol? If you remember, I was using the same dbol as you and I had very strange pains coming from my side at the end of week 3. I think it was caused by liver inflammation, although the liver has no nerves, if it's swollen it'll affect the other organs and muscles, so I dropped the dbol and the pain is gone. So I'd say at least drop the dbol, as it won't affect your gains that much and let the test E kick in by itself.

[pwerfll1]

exactly what i did bro

[pwerfll1]

well blome we no were not to buy d-bol huh lol

[SMCengineer]

well blome we no were not to buy d-bol huh lol

Yeah, my thoughts exactly, even if they weren't the culprit you can em just about anywere from better sources.

[pwerfll1]

not bad except the pain ! i gained 13lbs in 3 weeks and was feelin real strong though