Kale's Next Cycle

[Kale]

Time to hit the juice again dudes. As some of you may know I cruise on around 125mg of Test E a week. I plan on upping that to 250mg a week and then I am going to run the following cycle.

Week 1-8 Tren A 150mg EOD
Week 1-8 NPP 100mg EOD
A-Dex 0.25mg ED

I will be doing a clean bulk and the plan is to add about 15lbs. Currently I am sitting on around 185 lbs at 13% bf.

I am keeping the cycle short because in my experience the gains drop off at around week 7.

I welcome any intelligent feedback.

[SMAN12b]

Looks good Kale!! although I like ED shots instead, but i know you are afraid of needles... ..LOLOLOL

Loved my Tren A, but went through a week or two of Insomnia. it seems to have passed though.

Good Luck with it !!!

[Kale]

Looks good Kale!! although I like ED shots instead, but i know you are afraid of needles... ..LOLOLOL

Loved my Tren A, but went through a week or two of Insomnia. it seems to have passed though.

Good Luck with it !!!

I am kind of toying with the idea of ED shots. You really think it makes that big a difference ?

[marcus300]

Prime before the start of the cycle and your goals will easy be achieved. I would also consider upping the test dose.

Good luck

[Kale]

Prime before the start of the cycle and your goals will easy be achieved. I would also consider upping the test dose.

Good luck

Markus why would you up the test dose, I dont think I will get anything out of it. All its there for is to keep my peeny weeny working

[SMAN12b]

I am kind of toying with the idea of ED shots. You really think it makes that big a difference ?

Well to be honest, I couldn't tell if it made a difference since I didn't try the EOD yet. But I don't mind the ED. I do Glutes, quads, delts, and pecs and it rotates nicely. the pecs are the only ones that give me any pain.

you would probably be able to notice if there is a difference or not since you are used to EOD. Maybe try the ED and see what you think.

Are you gonna frontload the test at all to get your blood levels up faster since it is a shorter cycle??

I frontloaded mine and seemed to notice it in the second week

[Kale]

Well to be honest, I couldn't tell if it made a difference since I didn't try the EOD yet. But I don't mind the ED. I do Glutes, quads, delts, and pecs and it rotates nicely. the pecs are the only ones that give me any pain.

you would probably be able to notice if there is a difference or not since you are used to EOD. Maybe try the ED and see what you think.

Are you gonna frontload the test at all to get your blood levels up faster since it is a shorter cycle??

I frontloaded mine and seemed to notice it in the second week

I need Markus advice on the front load given that I am on Test all the time I am not sure it would make a difference.

[marcus300]

Markus why would you up the test dose, I dont think I will get anything out of it. All its there for is to keep my peeny weeny working

Basically i would up the test dose because test gives solid muscle gains but if it doesnt do anything for you stick with the dose stated.

[vitor]

Tren and deca will be greate to promote powerful anabolism from the androgen recepter, but they want do much for other non-AR meditaded mechanisms, so I would considder adding in an oral like d-bol or drol if possible.

[BITTAPART2]

IMO ED tren ace is loads better than EOD for sure. Ive tried both and prefer the ED route. IMO test should be alittle higher. maybe just run a six weeker and run higher doses

[Kale]

Thanks Vitor I might add Dbol into the mix but I swore I would never take that shit again after the last time I used it.

Bitta I will do ED shots, its not that big a deal just more damn sites.

[vitor]

Basically i would up the test dose because test gives solid muscle gains but if it doesnt do anything for you stick with the dose stated.

I agree, test is very effective.

But ive noticed that people who cruise on test(like kale) say they dont get much from high dose test cycles anymore...Tolerance build-up maybe...

Have you noticed this after you started cruising?

[Kale]

I agree, test is very effective.

But ive noticed that people who cruise on test(like kale) say they dont get much from high dose test cycles anymore...Tolerance build-up maybe...

Have you noticed this after you started cruising?

Definitely. My last cycle I was doing over a gram of Test and I felt nothing

[BITTAPART2]

Thanks Vitor I might add Dbol into the mix but I swore I would never take that shit again after the last time I used it.

Bitta I will do ED shots, its not that big a deal just more damn sites.

thats why i say blitz it in 6 weeks bro, it sucks but i alternate from pecs/triceps/shoulders/legs/buttocks/delts you got two of each of those so no spot should be sore the next time you hit it. it took me a while to do pecs but it is cake now. BTW DBOL aint friendly. id say you can omit the dbol all together do 75mg tren ED/1250 mg test EW/ NPP 75mg ED get in and get out in 6 weeks

[aadrenaline]

niiice. thats about what my next cycle is going to be, i was thinking about trying npp im hearing good things about it. does it bloat you as much as deca? because im looking to do a nice 6 weeker come like june

1-6 100mg prop ED
1-6 75mg tren a ED
1-6 50mg npp ED

or EOD shots depends on how long i can go with ED shots

[Kale]

niiice. thats about what my next cycle is going to be, i was thinking about trying npp im hearing good things about it. does it bloat you as much as deca? because im looking to do a nice 6 weeker come like june

1-6 100mg prop ED
1-6 75mg tren a ED
1-6 50mg npp ED

or EOD shots depends on how long i can go with ED shots

I dont get any bloat at all from Deca. I will be taking A-Dex anyway so I am not envisaging any bloat problems.

I will also be using Tren and NPP from the defunct Mythological Fire Breathing Monster company all supplied by our friend A so it will be interesting to see if its real or not.

[marcus300]

I agree, test is very effective.

But ive noticed that people who cruise on test(like kale) say they dont get much from high dose test cycles anymore...Tolerance build-up maybe...

Have you noticed this after you started cruising?

Yes tolerance does build up but if the right dose is used i think the combination between test and tren will be great. Id consider frontloading the test if kale doesnt want to use dbol kickstart.

[shrpskn]

Looks to me like a nice and tightly wound little cycle there bro.

Best of luck,

-ShrpSkn

[Kale]

Looks to me like a nice and tightly wound little cycle there bro.

Best of luck,

-ShrpSkn

Thanks dude, good to see you back. And after much advice I will do 750mg Test E a week and front load it at the start.

[fLgAtOr]

Thanks Vitor I might add Dbol into the mix but I swore I would never take that shit again after the last time I used it.

Have you thought about Drol then? (I'm also a DBol hater.)

I was very pleased with Drol and Tren together.

It's also is a DHT based compound, so that might give you another angle to work from.

[Kale]

Have you thought about Drol then? (I'm also a DBol hater.)

I was very pleased with Drol and Tren together.

It's also is a DHT based compound, so that might give you another angle to work from.

Might give that a try, dbol killed me, huge appetite suppressor and I got fvcking sore nipples as well. I am on my way to Bangkok, I will see how much it is there

[SPARROWM]

npp is the new tren, btw kale, can we get a look at the back side of your thai girl for change.

[guest589745]

You really think it makes that big a difference ?

Nope. I don't.

[guest589745]

Thanks dude, good to see you back. And after much advice I will do 750mg Test E a week and front load it at the start.

Yer gonna do enanthate and not prop ?

Frontloading has never been proven enough to me to think that it is a good idea.

[Kale]

Yes I am going to stick with Prop. I just bought some Drol in Bangkok, how much is the usual dose for this stuff as a cycle starter

[vitor]

I just bought some Drol in Bangkok, how much is the usual dose for this stuff as a cycle starter

The one time I did anadrol, it was 100 mg a/day. Very effective dose, I saw no reasen to go higher.

[superstar21]

dude, anadrol/tren/npp .. addin test, hello progesterone gyno, limp dick and a harsh recovery

[Kale]

dude, anadrol/tren/npp .. addin test, hello progesterone gyno, limp dick and a harsh recovery

Dude I will be doing Test so no limp dick, and no harsh recovery because I dont ever recover. I am on HRT for life. And as for Progesterone Gyno I have stuff to deal with that if it becomes an issue

[superstar21]

yeah, you're on a maintanance dose of test. Even on over a gram of test youd be facing erection probs with npp/anadrol and tren, i wouldnt go with anadrol in this cycle. But your choice of course. Anadrol just dosnt fit, swap with winny and yeah.. you got a cycle, throwing caution to the wind but yeah sticks to the idea of a keepable lbm gain cycle

[superstar21]

way more to keeping your dick working then just testosterone, when you add nandrolones to the mix

[taiboxa]

anyways looks solid to me i like running nand and tren together imo.. also keeping test low is great dont need all that aromatizing estrogen in ur system... just enuff to give u bullet proof boners..

looks like something i would do and yes i did NOT read any other posts cept first one so sue me ><

[Kale]

anyways looks solid to me i like running nand and tren together imo.. also keeping test low is great dont need all that aromatizing estrogen in ur system... just enuff to give u bullet proof boners..

looks like something i would do and yes i did NOT read any other posts cept first one so sue me ><

Tai boy, did you come outof retirement just to look at my thread. Where the hell have you been dude ?

[Mighty Joe]

kale,

I'm considering Tren next as well. A Prop/Tren 6-8 weeker! But I won't get started until April.
Keep us in the loop as to how you do on the Tren bro.

Good Luck , MJ

[deadliftin00]

Dude I will be doing Test so no limp dick, and no harsh recovery because I dont ever recover. I am on HRT for life. And as for Progesterone Gyno I have stuff to deal with that if it becomes an issue

Just out of curiosity what do you have on hand for this? I ran nandrolone at 400 a week w/20mg Nolva ED during my last bulker. Didn't get any progestin gyno, so I'm assuming I'm not prone. But I am curious as to what people are actually using since progestin gyno seems to be like a mystical subject.

[taiboxa]

Tai boy, did you come outof retirement just to look at my thread. Where the hell have you been dude ?

swimmin w/ da fishes

[onehundredk]

well intelligent feedback would be quitting the roids all together....otherwise you'll be 'cruising' into the kidney transplant clinic before long bro

excuss me sir, i think you have convinced me to throw out my gear. thank you sir.

[SMAN12b]

Massive aSS, I mean GG....go away, nobody wants your crap here and you will be banned soon enough so leave these threads alone !!!

[perfectbeast2001]

well intelligent feedback would be quitting the roids all together....otherwise you'll be 'cruising' into the kidney transplant clinic before long bro

Your answer is uneducated and ignorant. Please do some research before you post again.

[Kale]

way more to keeping your dick working then just testosterone, when you add nandrolones to the mix

Care to explain why ?

[Kale]

Just out of curiosity what do you have on hand for this? I ran nandrolone at 400 a week w/20mg Nolva ED during my last bulker. Didn't get any progestin gyno, so I'm assuming I'm not prone. But I am curious as to what people are actually using since progestin gyno seems to be like a mystical subject.

Dude I tend to agree with you based on the research I have done as well. But better to be safe than sorry. I have never had problems with Deca before and I am not expecting any issues now although Tren will be a new compound for me as will the drol, so I have Bromocriptine on hand just in case. I will be taking Adex so if I get gyno I can be pretty sure it is progesterone induced.

So the cycle now looks like this

Anadrol wk 1-4 100mg ED
Test E wk 1-8 750mg / week
NPP wk 1-8 75mg ED
Tren A wk 1-8 75 mg ED