Enanthate VS Prop.

[BBASP]

hey guys I just wanted to see what your opinion of the two was compared to the other one, if I understand correctly, one is slower absorbed by the body so you dont have to inject as much, and prop doesn't cause as much water retintion, does this mean the gains will not be as good? also what is the reccomended doseage for the two.
thanks so much

Caleb

[Titleist]

Enanth is a longer ester so it only needs to be injected twice a week. Prop is a shorter ester and needs to be injected at least EOD, ED keeps your blood levels the most stable. Yes the water retention on Prop is supposed to be less than that of Enanth. I have never used Prop but many people who have say that they don't see as much waterweight. No the gains will be just as good with Prop as they will be with a long estered Test, maybe better. Recommended dose for Enanth is usually 400-500mg per week and Prop is usually 50-75mgs per day or 100mgs every other day.

[BBASP]

thanks alot mrgetbig, its nice for people to actully help instead of being dicks, like on some other boards, anyone else?

[SMAN12b]

Naw, he pretty much summed it up for you!!

depends on how much you want to inject. ED or Twice a week. Most Prop comes with Pain at the injection site so you need to consider that as well.

[Cat316]

is this going to be your forst cycle?

[topnotch]

With prop, for example if you did 500total per week of eth, and 500 total per week of prop...wouldn't you actually be getting more actual test from the prop, therefore giving you possibly a little more gains?

[OldPLer]

If your diet and training are right, you will make good gains on both. it is just the difference between short and long esters.

[taiboxa]

theres a forum section here calld AAS PROFILES browse through it.. u have much to learn.

[mkrulic]

With prop, for example if you did 500total per week of eth, and 500 total per week of prop...wouldn't you actually be getting more actual test from the prop, therefore giving you possibly a little more gains?

have to consider half life. the prop ester is lighter but but the enan builds up more.
as far as water retention I swelled up like a ballon on it once. diet was way outa check. if diet is right for me it wont be an issue

[taiboxa]

have to consider half life. the prop ester is lighter but but the enan builds up more.
as far as water retention I swelled up like a ballon on it once. diet was way outa check. if diet is right for me it wont be an issue

my buddy pinnacle said diet has alot to do w/ the bloat attaind on cycle..
his thread can be found by clicking on HERE in my sig

[VAgym]

With Prop you will start seeing gains within days because it hits your system quick where as eth takes awhile to build up in your system. I am on a short 5 week cycle using prop and loving it. I am making a good of gains as the longer esters.

[stuball]

With Prop you will start seeing gains within days because it hits your system quick where as eth takes awhile to build up in your system. I am on a short 5 week cycle using prop and loving it. I am making a good of gains as the longer esters.

Prop is great i wish i could do it year round ..

[topnotch]

But doesnt' the ratio actually have more testosterone in it in prop?

"Chemical = Formula = Molecular Weight = Mg of Testosterone
Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg
So you see, the longer the ester on the testosterone is, the longer the steroid is active in your body, and the less actual test you get. This is because, for every 100mgs of testosterone cypionate you inject, only 69.90mgs of it is actually testosterone, the rest is the cypionate ester, which must be removed. On the other hand, with the propionate ester you´ll get 83.72mgs of Testosterone!"

That's from the test prop steroid profile. So actually if you inject 500mg of prop total per week, and 500mg of cyp/eth per week, then your actually getting more testosterone itself with the prop...isn't this right?

[Spooky]

One thing i don't get. If you would inject EOD 100 mg wouldn't you use 1 week 400 mg and the other week 300 mg ?

[hugovsilva]

So what...

That would make an average of 350mg/week.

[jagdpanther]

But doesnt' the ratio actually have more testosterone in it in prop?

"Chemical = Formula = Molecular Weight = Mg of Testosterone
Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg
So you see, the longer the ester on the testosterone is, the longer the steroid is active in your body, and the less actual test you get. This is because, for every 100mgs of testosterone cypionate you inject, only 69.90mgs of it is actually testosterone, the rest is the cypionate ester, which must be removed. On the other hand, with the propionate ester you´ll get 83.72mgs of Testosterone!"

That's from the test prop steroid profile. So actually if you inject 500mg of prop total per week, and 500mg of cyp/eth per week, then your actually getting more testosterone itself with the prop...isn't this right?

Initially you will get more test from the prop due to the short ester but over about 15- 24 days the cypionate will actually raise your test plasma levels higher then the prorionate. That is why I think people get more sides like bloat from long esters - they get higher levels of test in their blood. I think that is why I get slightly better results from long esters, which I see after the bloat is gone. I'm not talking water weight here -but actual gains.

The difference in ester weight seems to have little effect on me.

I like and use both for enanthenate and proprionate for different reasons.
I'm thinking about trying test phenylproprionate as I thought NPP was an improvement over deca.

[Homer 8]

I prefer enanthate over prop the reason been is that i get such a bad pain from prop its really very annoying, sometimes its that bad i cant even train i just really have a bad reaction

[topnotch]

Initially you will get more test from the prop due to the short ester but over about 15- 24 days the cypionate will actually raise your test plasma levels higher then the prorionate. That is why I think people get more sides like bloat from long esters - they get higher levels of test in their blood. I think that is why I get slightly better results from long esters, which I see after the bloat is gone. I'm not talking water weight here -but actual gains.

The difference in ester weight seems to have little effect on me.

I like and use both for enanthenate and proprionate for different reasons.
I'm thinking about trying test phenylproprionate as I thought NPP was an improvement over deca.

Alright man thanks for the reply...i see what you mean...so basically the first week is the only difference.

[fLgAtOr]

my buddy pinnacle said diet has alot to do w/ the bloat attaind on cycle..
his thread can be found by clicking on HERE in my sig

I continue to take something away from that everytime I read it.

[taiboxa]

I continue to take something away from that everytime I read it.

yeah i know.. i make my pet NOOBS read it atleast twice before i ever help them.. and by that time they usually dont need my help till way later on.