First Cycle Please Advise

[sheytoon]

Hey guys .
As you can guess I’m new at posting on these forums, although I’ve spent a while researching facts from here.
I’m want to do my first real cycle and need your input.

Background:
I’m 26, male @ 93KGs (204.6 lBs)
Working out since 19....(I had times where I would go on off due to changes in life etc)
Working out seriously since 24.

Goal:
105 Kg’s Bulked, 95 kg’s @ 8% body fat (less if I can, but this will be the goal of another cycle)

Ok now the important stuff.
This is what my cycle will be like. Its the basic of all cycles (Im taking Test – enth, Dbol and winstrol)

So:
Week 1 – week 12 = Test enth 500mg (Split into 2 shots)
Week 1 – Week 4 = Dbol 35mg
Week 8 – Week 12 = winstrol 50mg

I want to do the winstrol so that I can melt some fat and harden up towards the end. Comments on this?

PCT:
Nolva.
PCT will commence 24 hours after last winstrol intake and will last for 4 weeks, maybe more if needed. This is what it will look like.

Week 13 Nolva 40mg
Week 14 Nolva 40mg
Week 15 Nolva 20mg
Week 16 Nolva 20mg

From my research I’ve concluded that clomid is better for bringing test back up quicker, however the side effects are a lot more harsh than Nolva. Nolva will do the same thing (also blocking EST with less sides) but from my understanding it’s not as quick in returning test levels back to normal.

What are your guys/gals thoughts on just nolva for PCT?

I’ve also read that some users here take 10ml of nolva while on cycle (just to keep est down and stop complete shut off of the boys). But I hear this somewhat limit gains.
Thoughts anyone?

OK the most important thing Diet:

I got this diet from here. I can’t remember who posted it (thank you in advance).I changed it a bit so please advise if I’m missing anything.
Now the problem with me is that I gain easily (everything that is, including fat) so I want to keep the diet clean as possible. I’m also working as well so all food will be prepared the night before.

Meal #1
6 boiled egg whites
1 cup oats

Meal #2
protein (2scoops)
1 cup oats

Meal #3
200g Meat (ie. Tuna, chicken , beef, stake)
3/4 cup rice or two small potatoes

Meal #4
protein (2scoops)
1 cup oats

Workout

Meal #5 PWO
2 scopes Protein
1/2 cup oats

Meal #6 PPWO
200g Meat (lean ie beef, chicken, tuna etc)
1 potato
1 cup milk

Meal #7
100g shaven turkey meat (Would that be enough?)
1/4 cup cashews
1 boiled egg white

Meal #8 (Before Bed)
Fish oil
1 egg
1 cup milk
1 scoop protein powder

Workout:

My workout will be spread over 5 days. First set is always a warm-up very light weight high reps good squeeze. Also the mid set is with the heaviest weight

Day one: Chest
Incline BB 15, 10, 6, 8
Flat Bench 15, 10, 6, 8
Flies (depending on mood will determine what type i.e. DB, Cable etc) 15, 12, 8, 12
Weighted Dips (Fun stuff) 12, 8, 10, 15 (last set a burn set so no weights)

Day 2: Shoulders and Traps
DB military press 15, 10, 6, 8
BB behind the neck military press 15, 10, 6, 8
Side raises (DB) 15, 10, 8, 12
Seated front raises (DB) 12, 10, 8, 10
Straight BB Shrugs 12, 10, 8, 10
V bar shrugs 12, 10, 8, 10

Day 3: Legs
Leg extensions 15, 10, 8, 10
Lying leg curls 12, 10, 8, 10
SQUATS (I LOVE/HATE THESE) 15, 10, 8, 12
Leg Press 12, 10, 8, 12
Standing calve raises 12, 12, 12, 12 (should you do a lot here or more weight low reps????)

Day 4: Back
Pull ups 50, (so 5 sets of 10 etc)
Pull downs 12, 10, 6, 8
Dead lifts 12 (just to warm the lower back up very low weight), 8, 6, 6, 6
V bar pull downs 12, 10, 6, 8
Cable rows 12, 10, 8, 10

Day 5 Arms (Bi and tri)
Seated Machine curls 15, 10, 8, 10
Standing BB curls 12, 10, 8, 10
Seated DB hammer curls 12, 10, 8, 10
Lying French press 12, 8, 8, 10
Straight bar extensions 12, 8, 8, 10
V bar extensions 12, 10, 8, 12

Also 3 days cardio and abs (on chest, shoulders, and 6th day)

Ok so that does it I think. Please let me know if there is anything I’ve missed.
I’ll also start a log when I start my ‘sups’ and post some photos up.
Also before I forget does anyone here have the link where it shows the correct way to insert the needle into your body? I had it but lost the page. It was really useful.

[MrMe]

Welcome to the board bud.

Cycle looks good, but some might say just do the dbol and test for first cycle. winstrol you will have to inject ED. What are your doses?

As for PCT i would at least do Clomid with nolva, not nolva alone. Some dont like clomid cause of the sides and the fact it makes you an emotional wimp, but its not that bad and is what allot of first cyclers do.

[sheytoon]

I updated with the doses. Guess Ill just stick to Dbol and Test. Im not looking foward to the clomid but I guess it has to be done.

So revise of PCT
Week 13 Nolva 40mg Day 1 Clomid @ 300mg then 100mg
Week 14 Nolva 40mg Clomid @ 100mg
Week 15 Nolva 20mg Clomid @ 50mg
Week 16 Nolva 20mg

Does that look right for clomid?

[sheytoon]

Anyone else got any comments?

[jaydub]

I agree with mrme. ya might wanna keep your first cycle as simple as possible. pct looks alright with the clomid. only thing I might add would be hcg to help jumpstart natty test at the end of the cycle

[Valac]

looks good to me. except the part doin weights behind the head. i know a lot of guys that have had to get shoulders reconstructions cos of this. although some might say its safe, its just my opinion. anyway good luck with ur cycle hope u hit ya target. lookin forward to seeing some pics later on.

[sheytoon]

Thanks guys for the input, ill post a pic of me from about 2 months back, I’ve just moved to a new country so lost about 3 kgs. Like i said before I’m quiet bulky.

[sheytoon]

This is me (Be kind)

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...96#post3407796

[AandF6969]

What are your overall goals for the cycle?

Too much protein powder... try to get real food in there more often. Postworkout is an exception. Definitely get solid food in there for your last meal of the day, whey gets digested too quickly.

You should total up your calories and post your diet in the diet forum for critique.

Also, you could drop the "behind the neck" presses... very unnatural position and it puts you at a great risk for shoulder injury. Just do another set or two of presses in front.

[sheytoon]

Thanks AandF6969 for the input. Ill post the diet in the diet forum for critique. But its getting really late so that will be done tomorrow night. Ill see what other foods I can add instead of powder.

[powerinabottle1300]

Welcome bro, I would stick to the test and the dbol for your first. I am on a very similar cycle right now, this is week two for me. I have my rookie cycle log posted under cycle results. Good luck

[johnmacdan]

I agree with mrme. ya might wanna keep your first cycle as simple as possible. pct looks alright with the clomid. only thing I might add would be hcg to help jumpstart natty test at the end of the cycle

How would you suggest he add the HCG and wouldn't he wait 2 weeks after his last shot of Test before starting his PCT?

[MrMe]

Personaly i dont like waiting 2 weeks when everything is almost out of your system. I will usualy start 7 to 9 days after my last test e shot. I find when i wait its so hard for the PCT to help me cause it feels i dipped my levels. But its a personal choice.

How would you suggest he add the HCG and wouldn't he wait 2 weeks after his last shot of Test before starting his PCT?