Is 5 wks of test e @500/d-bol 25g a day long enough for decent gains?

[mario_ps2]

If I get my gear and blood/liver values come out fine...

I'm planning to do a 5 week cycle of Test E at 500 ml a week and D-bol/25 grams per day. This will be my first cycle of gear although I have done 3 of superdrol - which is consider a real steroid - but I don't know if the s-drol counted as real gear cycles.

I'm 237 at around 16-20% bodyfat, trained for years, and currently 32 years old.

Do you guys think this is a very short cycle?

Will it be enough to gain some decent muscle?

Should I run test E longer ..say from 5 to 8 weeks?

Any opinions or critics would be appreciated.
Thanks guys....

[Random]

If I get my gear and blood/liver values come out fine...

I'm planning to do a 5 week cycle of Test E at 500 ml a week and D-bol/25 grams per day. This will be my first cycle of gear although I have done 3 of superdrol - which is consider a real steroid - but I don't know if the s-drol counted as real gear cycles.

I'm 237 at around 16-20% bodyfat, trained for years, and currently 32 years old.

Do you guys think this is a very short cycle?

Will it be enough to gain some decent muscle?

Should I run test E longer ..say from 5 to 8 weeks?

Any opinions or critics would be appreciated.
Thanks guys....

Glad to see you provided some info....

to maximize your gains i would use test prop for at least 6 wks or test e with a Frontload...why so short of a cycle?

something better would be

wks 1-8 test prop 500mg per wk
wks 1-4 Dbol 25-50mg ED

CD

[juice4life]

I think he has test E though CD

You should run test E for atleast 10 weeks because it is a very short acting ester, but if you feel that you have to run a shorter cycle, the you would need to do Test prop for about 8 weeks.

Since this is your first injectable cycle, it's usually better to go with the longer ester because you only have to inject twice a week.

[Random]

You should run test E for atleast 10 weeks because it is a very short acting ester.

U must mean long acting !? ha its cool, its late...

but yea if you use test e, make sure u frontload it, or go with prop at a shorter time frame...i would run either at least 8 wks..

CD

[mario_ps2]

Yes it's Test E. Don't you have to inject once a week
if you're using test e according to what I have read?

It does make sense to run test e longer than 5 weeks, however I just wanted to see how I would react to this steroid. Plus..I don't know how to inject. I will probably go to a doc accross the border in mexico and have him inject me and probably teach me the art on injecting it correctly.

The only problem is that I only ordered 10 amps of
250 test e and it takes around 10 to 21 days to get
the gear if everything goes right.

I wish I knew someone here from the U.S.A that sold reputable gear.

[gixxerboy1]

Then wait to get more gear before you start. Some people don't start to see results from test e till week 6 or 7 and you would have already stopped.

Test e should be injected twice a week.

[Random]

Like Gixxer said, 2x per wk, it sounds like you really arent ready to use AS properly, if you wont run test e for longer than 5 wks, why even run it????

why not do an oral cycle, see how u respond, do more reading then when you are ready do a full test cycle?

CD

[marcus300]

To run Test E properly you will need to run it longer than 5 wks, especially if its your first proper cycle. If you wanted to cut down the cycle and still use the testE you would be best front loading the test, doulbe the injections up to the first half life that will get your blood hormone levels up and running within the first week instead of waiting till wk 6-7, but 5 wks is still short for a first cycle but it can be done if you front load and if your dropped your BF before starting the cycle.

Example would be if your primmed the body before the start of the cycle which will open the growth window and create a very anabolic environment for muscle tissue to grow very fast for when you start the cycle, this will also reduce your bf to a better level. I feel primming and front loading would be the only option to take to achieve good results from 5 wks of test E, other than that do a normal cycle of test E for 10-12 wks.

[muscle_20]

Yes it's Test E. Don't you have to inject once a week
if you're using test e according to what I have read?

It does make sense to run test e longer than 5 weeks, however I just wanted to see how I would react to this steroid. Plus..I don't know how to inject. I will probably go to a doc accross the border in mexico and have him inject me and probably teach me the art on injecting it correctly.

The only problem is that I only ordered 10 amps of
250 test e and it takes around 10 to 21 days to get
the gear if everything goes right.

I wish I knew someone here from the U.S.A that sold reputable gear.

your going to smuggle the gear over the border so a doc can do it just read up on injectings i hate doing it my self but its not hard!

[Stock]

If you are close enough, you could have the doc in Mexico do the first five weeks of Test E for you and then use your supply for the second half. That would give you 10 weeks. After you see the doc do it 10x you should be able to handle it.

[mario_ps2]

Thanks for the info bro, I'm going to go for a longer cycle at a minimum of 8 weeks with frontloading. However, I have read many articles, posts, and logs of bodybuilders/powerlifters that it's not necessary to inject twice a week because of the time it stays on your body unless you are frontloading.

This is a quote that I got from another website.

"Although Testosterone enanthate is effective for several weeks, it is injected at least once a week in body-building, powerlifting, and weightlifting. This, by all means, makes sense since Testosterone enanthate has a plasma half-life time in the blood of only one week."

For frontloading, how many weeks do you double your dose for maximum benefits?

[Dog-Slime]

It says AT LEAST once a week... One will work, two will be better, space it 3.5 days apart. You frontload the first week (Should be first two shots).