How long should a first cycle be?

[Flagg]

Hello guys.

I know this sounds a fairly obscure question but I have a friend who's planning on starting a cycle for the first time next week.

He says he's gonna do Sust and Deca, dosage I dont know, but he says he's just gonna do it for 6 weeks as he wants a "light cycle".

Now im no expert but that doesnt sound right to me. I mean I dont know, it could be but is 6 weeks really long enough for a first time cycle or what?

Sorry for the obscure question, I did try finding something in the Educational Thread to no avail.

[t-gunz]

if it's a first cycle should be test e i did use sust but it went for 10 weeks 500mg/w

should only use 1 compound for first cycle.. and make sure a good PCT

btw it'll take 4-6 weeks for the sust to kick in. some people maybe longer

[TheSentinal]

Agreed. I would suggest 10 weeks and make sure he has PCT before he starts. Also, anti-e's for potential gyno or water retention.

[Titleist]

His Deca most likely won't even have kicked in by 6 weeks. I'm not a big fan of Sust, I don't think it's very useful in BBing, JMO.

A 10-12 week cycle of Test E/C is what I would recommend for him. 400-500mg/wk, I wouldn't go any higher than that weekly, but I know a few people that gained great off of 350-375mg/wk. Also, like stated above, make sure he has his PCT and possibly an A.I. to control bloat.

[Joemeek]

I did a sust & deca for my first cycle at 500 & 200 for 9 weeks on a 2 day split, had no problems what so ever. Just make sure he does his pct after and as said before, takes an anti e throughout

[RA]

6 weeks isnt long enough. For some people the sus wouldnt even have kicked in much less the Deca.

[Swifto]

I went 13 weeks, but planned 14. Had to stop short due to pneumonia.

[johnmacdan]

I've been reading quite a bit on short cycles and there are plenty of people that advocate them. I don't believe any of them were discussing the first cycle or using Sustanon and Deca. I was thinking of trying one later with Prop, NPP & Winny, but that is some time off. However, I don't think I would want that on my first cycle either. The first few weeks I shot really were tough due to needle phobia and shooting eod would have been tough. Desire will quickly get rid of the phobia though.

As for experience, my first cycle ends in two weeks (12 week cycle) which is two week longer than I planned, but I wanted to time pct. It was Test E and I just started seeing good gains around week 7.

[Swifto]

I've never tried a short cycled, though am open minded and probably will oneday. I was advised (hope he doesnt mind me posting this) by Marcus, to run a Test/Oral short burst cycle. I have run cycles before.

Something like:

wk 1-4 Test Prop 200mg/ED
wk 1-4 Tbol 80mg/ED Or Dbol 30mg/ED

Then PCT.

[Flagg]

Hey bros, thanks for the pointers, sorry for the late reply, been busy with work/life etc.

I have since explained the points you guys got across and failing that I was gonna show him the link to this thread as he sometimes lurks here but he's conceded that 6 weeks wont be long enough.

Thanks again!

[Property of Steroid.com]

Cycle until you reach your goal for that cycle.

[yahya1966]

Cycle until you reach your goal for that cycle.

thank you. i also don't believe in set times for cycles. i keep poking until i stop gaining.