Recover probs! Spend some time reading my story

[2fast4u]

Hi.
Stats
24 Years old
182 cm (71.7 inches) tall
85 kg
Around 10% bodyfat

Been training for the last 6 years.

Done 2 cycles in my life, one really bad, and one good.

The bad one, was a stupid cycle,before last summer, with dbol only without PCT. I hope everyone in the future will spend many month at this forum, and learn that this oral only cycle,will fu** you up. You dont need to test it by yourself, I regret it everyday.

That cycle was last year, in Mars.

After that, I was spending alot time in here(about a year), to get knowledge.

After that damn cycle, I was totally shutdown, my nips started to hurt and my libido wasnt in the mood to perform. This countinue many month. I found out about pct and did order Nolva/clomid and did a 1,5 month pct.(But i dont think a was fully recovered anyway)

Next cycle was a real good newbie cycle:
500 mg test cyp/Mon,Thurs every week for 12 weeks.
Hcg last 3 weeks
Nolva/clomid 16 days after last shot.
2 weeks Nolva 40 mg/Clomid 100 mg
2 weeks Nolva 20mg/clomid 50 mg

I had minor gyno irretation before the cycle so its just continue thru the cycle, and a used alot of nolva thru the cycle.

After this cycle, I didnt recover at all after PCT. My body seems to be one of a kind, and It really make me depressed.

I tryed all the tips from the good guys on this forum, to get rid of the minor gyno (lumps under nipple that hurts), and to get my recover back to normal and my libido to work again.

I have tryed Letro 2.5 mg/ED, for 2 month, and nolva after that.
I tryed Arimidex and Ldex, Tribilus,zink etc

I tryed to repeat the PCT 2 times with Nolva/clomid
I also tryed Proviron for the libido, up to 100mg/ED, and didnt feel a thing.

It has now been 7 month since the last test cyp cycle, and some weeks after the last reapeted PCT, and I still have problems.

The lumps under the nipple still hurts, but the gyno doesnt seems to develop that much (felt this pain under a year now). Been on Ultrasound? to check the breast tissue but they didnt found anything that wasnt normal they said.

My libido is totally dead, and have been for the last 7 month. Have used Cialis, to perform sometimes for my girlfriend. And it works ok, but its hard to perform when its been 7 month since you had a sexdrive and wanted sex. Its ripping me apart.
Have ordered some nice tongkat ali, and see if it will help me.

What shall i do? How can it be so hard for me to recover?
Like I feel now, it feels like Im shutdown for life, and have to be doing TRT rest of my life. It feels so unfair, that a dbol cycle, first time in use of AAS, can screw you up so much.

Im thinking of get my bloodtest checked (its really hard in my country to get it, seems much easier in the USA) If it was so easy, I wanted to do it before and after every cycle..

I really want to get my body running again, make some nice gains, and maybe try a testprop,masteron cycle in the future. Im still young, it feels crazy feeling like this! I love training, and doing it serious without alcohol at the weekends and with a really good food intake.

I hope you all newbies learn of the guys with knowledge in here, and doesnt make the mistake by yourself

Thanks for the answers and Hope you all feeling happy and get good gains in the future

Cheers /AJ

[XNathan]

Go to your doc. Ask for help describe your problem he will send you to endo. After so many months you should be fine and you run just test (and more than one PCT).. from my experience I never had any problem with test cycles. Nandrolone and trenbolone thats another story.

Maybe you are hypo sec. or in worst case primary (unpropably). Hard to speculate about dg. Visit doc and dont wait, dont start another cycle before you will be fully recovered or knew what is wrong.

Take care

[pr0digy9daniel]

One question, when you are on cycle, say with test 500mg a week, do you have a libido?

I think you still have much to learn, and in my opinion you need to stop cycling first of all. It would be helpful to know more about your circumstances, what was your first cycle? What doses?

I think what you need to do firstly, is goto your doctor and ask for tests on Testosterone (free/total), E2 (estrodiol), prolactin, as well as LH and FSH. Depending on whats going on with your body, it may be possible to correct what has gone wrong. If you intend to do any cycles in future, PCT will be a must...

Either way, good luck bro...

[Merc..]

Have you seen my bloodwork sticky??? It might just give you some insite on bloodwork ... Heres a link in case you havent seen it.. Hope it helps !!!!!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=254423

I would go get bloodwork done to see exactly where your at.. You might have to be on HRT but at this point without bloodwork its to hard to tell for sure .. You dont want to jump on HRT at your age( your only 24) unless your postive you need it..


Merc

[2fast4u]

One question, when you are on cycle, say with test 500mg a week, do you have a libido?

Yes it was better, not rocket hard, but it was performing

I think you still have much to learn, and in my opinion you need to stop cycling first of all. It would be helpful to know more about your circumstances, what was your first cycle? What doses?

- I think I had very much to learn when my first cycle was done. I was stupid. After that, I spent over a year researching on the forums.
The first shitty cycle, was 50 mg russian dbol, 4 weeks. Without PCT. As I said in the first post

I think what you need to do firstly, is goto your doctor and ask for tests on Testosterone (free/total), E2 (estrodiol), prolactin, as well as LH and FSH. Depending on whats going on with your body, it may be possible to correct what has gone wrong. If you intend to do any cycles in future, PCT will be a must...

- Now I know that a cycle isnt a cycle without PCT. It should be almost worthless for your gains and damage your hormones and so on.

Either way, good luck bro...

Thank you bro, Im going to seek a doctor, and I going to update with the results.

[2fast4u]

Have you seen my bloodwork sticky??? It might just give you some insite on bloodwork ... Heres a link in case you havent seen it.. Hope it helps !!!!!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=254423

I would go get bloodwork done to see exactly where your at.. You might have to be on HRT but at this point without bloodwork its to hard to tell for sure .. You dont want to jump on HRT at your age( your only 24) unless your postive you need it..


Merc

Thanks bro. Very good information

[pr0digy9daniel]

Yes, its hard to tell whats wrong without the bloodwork, but my guess would be you may have too little testosterone and too much estrogen. Either way, let us know what the doctor says... Since it was only a 4 week cycle, its probably not as bad as it could be... I dont really think being on TRT/HRT is nessasary unless you were hypogonadal before the cycle...

[peterbondra]

Thank you bro, Im going to seek a doctor, and I going to update with the results.

Tough luck man. Good luck on the recovery. I'm going to try some cabergoline myself to help with my sex drive during PCT so its worth doing some research on down the road.

[2fast4u]

Yes, its hard to tell whats wrong without the bloodwork, but my guess would be you may have too little testosterone and too much estrogen. Either way, let us know what the doctor says... Since it was only a 4 week cycle, its probably not as bad as it could be... I dont really think being on TRT/HRT is nessasary unless you were hypogonadal before the cycle...

Yes. I think so too m8. The strange is that Clomid should boost my levels as it does on everybody else. I know, 4 weeks doesnt sound that bad (heard stupid people that done 20 cycles without PCT, and still make gains) But I guess everyone is different, I just hope that I can recover someday

[2fast4u]

Tough luck man. Good luck on the recovery. I'm going to try some cabergoline myself to help with my sex drive during PCT so its worth doing some research on down the road.

Thank you bro!
It sucks that my body doesnt respond to anything to boost up the levels again. I dont think Tongkat Ali that Im waiting for is going to help me, but Im going to continue with the nolva/clomid and tongkat.
Its hard to have a girlfriend when things is like it is ! :/
I hope you are happy with the results of your cycle, and the gains are good