I was looking at doing a cycle of cyp soon but I only wanted to do a short one. I realize prop would be the best but it just gets too painful. Would 8 or 10 weeks be the minimum? What if I front loaded it and used higher doses? My last cycle was cyp for 4 months at 600mg/week and I loved it. Started to get too much acne near the end though. Is 8 weeks too short. Don't really wanna jump start with prop or dbol either. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for any ideas