Test P

[theflyzman]

Stats:
19% BF
6 ft
219 lbs.
4 cycles
last cycle
750 Test E
500 Deca
50mg first five weeks
5 months total time on cycle
Gaines 32 lbs. on this cycle and 3% BF
Going into cutting cycle. Did sustanon 250 and got bad headaches at first until i did sustanon 250 EOD on my secind cycle. I was told the test P levels going up n down or high blood pressure was the problem. I plan on doing 100mg ED of test P. Will i get those crazy headaches? Cuting cycle listed below:
700 Test P per week
150 Tren Acetate ED
Clen 200 ED
T-3 100 ED
Ketotifen on hand for clen build up
Will do Test P and tren for 2 months
clen and t3 for 6 weeks
PS do you think this will b enough time 2 get down arown 12%bf or should i plan on 3 months??
Thanks!!!

[Amorphic]

you've done 4 cycles and your bodyfat is still at 19%?

seems like you should be focusing more on cardio and diet than heavy cycles.

[SNUKA]

I would cut the test, tren and clen doses in half even t3 at 100 seems a little high maybe go to 75 and see how it goes.

To lose 15lbs doesnt seem unreasonable for 3 months. It comes out to about a pound a week if you dont include some of the water weight. Diet must be in check, run your balls off and the compounds will take care of the rest as long as the others are in place.

219lbs at 19% would be 41.61lbs, 219lbs at 12% would be 26.28lbs. Obviously you wont be the same weight, but it give you a guide of how much you have to lose.

[theflyzman]

Thanks snuka! I plan on getting down around 190-195lb.
Amorphic, Your right. During this last cycle, my diet was crap. I eat everything in sight. I took in around 4000-6000 calories a day and lifted crazy. 3 wieght gainers a day! took in around 400 protien grams a day and loved it. diet time scares me now. My main concern though is if Test P leveles will cause headaches. I know how to build a body and lose the weight, no problem. the headaches i had with the sus sucked though. WILL TEST P AT 100MG ED GIVE ME HEADACHES. ANYONE WITH TEST P KNOWLEDGE??

[theflyzman]

bump

[hugovsilva]

Thanks snuka! I plan on getting down around 190-195lb.
Amorphic, Your right. During this last cycle, my diet was crap. I eat everything in sight. I took in around 4000-6000 calories a day and lifted crazy. 3 wieght gainers a day! took in around 400 protien grams a day and loved it. diet time scares me now. My main concern though is if Test P leveles will cause headaches. I know how to build a body and lose the weight, no problem. the headaches i had with the sus sucked though. WILL TEST P AT 100MG ED GIVE ME HEADACHES. ANYONE WITH TEST P KNOWLEDGE??

No one can answer that for you man, you should know that.

For me no headaches, but I was running it at 50mg ed.

BTW, you will be running some sick dosages. I don't think you need all that.

[theflyzman]

What do you guys recomend for dosage on this cutting cycle?

[longhorn814]

Stats:
19% BF
6 ft
219 lbs.
4 cycles
last cycle
750 Test E
500 Deca
50mg first five weeks
5 months total time on cycle
Gaines 32 lbs. on this cycle and 3% BF
Going into cutting cycle. Did sustanon 250 and got bad headaches at first until i did sustanon 250 EOD on my secind cycle. I was told the test P levels going up n down or high blood pressure was the problem. I plan on doing 100mg ED of test P. Will i get those crazy headaches? Cuting cycle listed below:
700 Test P per week
150 Tren Acetate ED
Clen 200 ED
T-3 100 ED
Ketotifen on hand for clen build up
Will do Test P and tren for 2 months
clen and t3 for 6 weeks
PS do you think this will b enough time 2 get down arown 12%bf or should i plan on 3 months??
Thanks!!!

thats a lot of tren to take everyday..whats your experience with tren? I have great cycles where I just run 50mg of prop/day and 75 mg tren/day..i hope you plan on ramping up and down your dose of clen..200mcg is a high dose for most people..let alone to start with..that'll give you crazy headaches..not so much the prop or tren..i would work on getting your bf down first..gear and excess body fat can raise your bp and cause you more headaches as well

[fdrx7man]

wow thats a shit load of tren to take each day, cut it doen to 50-75mg!

but there right dude gotta get that diet in check! 19% after 4 cycles is insane! something had to be amiss.

id personally cut down on most of that stuff and run a smaller dose of test P and tren, and focus more on cardio and endurance weightlifting, and knock the t3 down and add clen to the picture! with t3 that high ur asking for trouble!

[theflyzman]

Good advice... Thanks.... No experience with tren, just lots of reading on it and boards. Yes i will work up the clen and down. used clen twice before and handle 200 per day with no problems. Headaches upfront but lots of water helps with that.
Anyone else have some thoughts??

[magicstick2003]

with the t3 monitor your waking temp prior to starting you wanna be in the 98.1-98.3 range i belive once you're on. also start that out low and work up till you're in that range, least thats what i get out of reading up on it. i plan on running a similiar cycle in a little bit
prop at 600-700/wk and tren at 50-75/day. still undecided on it though. might go lower end on the tren dosing though for me.

[theflyzman]

Love this board... I really never went through a real good cutting cycle at all. started this cycle at around 15%BF or 16%BF went up a bit after a 5 month bulking cycle, but thats why im here to find out a good cutting cycle with the tren, test p, clen and t3. so im hearing
50-100ED of test P
75mg ED of Tren
and
Clen n t3
Sound about right??

[theflyzman]

Bump

[fdrx7man]

looks good to me man!

[juicenchris2989]

Stats:
19% BF
6 ft
219 lbs.
4 cycles
last cycle
750 Test E
500 Deca
50mg first five weeks
5 months total time on cycle
Gaines 32 lbs. on this cycle and 3% BF
Going into cutting cycle. Did sustanon 250 and got bad headaches at first until i did sustanon 250 EOD on my secind cycle. I was told the test P levels going up n down or high blood pressure was the problem. I plan on doing 100mg ED of test P. Will i get those crazy headaches? Cuting cycle listed below:
700 Test P per week
150 Tren Acetate ED
Clen 200 ED
T-3 100 ED
Ketotifen on hand for clen build up
Will do Test P and tren for 2 months
clen and t3 for 6 weeks
PS do you think this will b enough time 2 get down arown 12%bf or should i plan on 3 months??
Thanks!!!

im doing a similar cutting cycle i got a few more compounds but i think your dose's are to high unless your gear is under-dosed

[largerthannormal]

u use clen 200 ed?? i would reccomend pyramiding clen!

[Markosterone]

I did test p 150mg EOD and tren a 150mg EOD, it made me lean at these doses, and I was bulking haha.

If your cutting I can only imagine what it will do for you...

start off with 75mg of each compound ED, and if you can tolerate the sides, up the dosage to 100mg ED of each.

maybe wait to week 3-4 then up the dosages, if your not satisfied with it.

GL & HF

[hugovsilva]

Good advice... Thanks.... No experience with tren, just lots of reading on it and boards. Yes i will work up the clen and down. used clen twice before and handle 200 per day with no problems. Headaches upfront but lots of water helps with that.
Anyone else have some thoughts??

Isn't your headache problem clen related?

[powerliftmike]

Why not low dose test prop, jumping rope & jogging, and cleaning up diet to cut up? cheaper, healthier, better

[theflyzman]

bump

[mclovin009]

200mg of clen ED???? dont try and blame your headaches that you are most likely going to get on the prop

[hobbs9963]

As others have stated, why so much tren? IMO you don't need that much. Lots of cardio and a good diet would be more beneficial.