Video: Sheriff Tasers 11 year old girl in school...

[thegodfather]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSIJMyId1qo

[200byjune]

amazing. but the fukcing pigs can say watever they want and its true

[Odpierdol_sie!]

Haha classic, what is this world coming too. I know its wrong to hit anyone, but in tihs case you have to take it for its own merits. If i was a wanna be grass (rent a cop) and some kid hit me, id wouldnt arrest them and waste shed loads of tax payers money, id just give them a god slapping and snap my foot off in thier arse, kids need more of that these days. In this case i think id have to let comon sense tell me it was an accident, and turn a blind eye.
Poor little girl, those people should be ashamed of themselfs!

[jAcKeD!!!!]

11 year old and being held on account of 3 charges? ha come on now

[rockinred]

Ah man, why do you got to get everyone all worked up... the thing for me is...i don't believe the mom that the kid is all innocent or anything like that... still, to taser an 11 year old girl?? that is just out of control...once again, I hope the officers get disciplined for it.... taser is for guys like us, all jacked up... not a lil girl... my daughter is that age...

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

hhhhmmmm. Wells cops saying one thing, family is saying another.

Did she really punch and act disorderly? She looked like a pretty big girl, and wasn't the cop a woman?

lol taser away, kids these days.... :/

Then again, I hate cops. They all seem like crooked lying bastards.

what are your thoughts godfather?

[Panzerfaust]

[dirtball_619]

damn, she looks like a big girl. maybe she needed to be tased. i was hoping for a video of the actual tasing action.

[rockinred]

damn, she looks like a big girl. maybe she needed to be tased. i was hoping for a video of the actual tasing action.

come on now... 11 year is still a baby in my books regardless of their size... try and think of any lil kids you know and think about them getting tazed... you can pretty much grab a kid by the arm and tell them what to do if they get out of control...imo

[thegodfather]

hhhhmmmm. Wells cops saying one thing, family is saying another.

Did she really punch and act disorderly? She looked like a pretty big girl, and wasn't the cop a woman?

lol taser away, kids these days.... :/

Then again, I hate cops. They all seem like crooked lying bastards.

what are your thoughts godfather?

The Taser was DESIGNED as a LESS THAN LETHAL WEAPON. The fact remains that it is still a WEAPON. It is certainly capable of causing cardiac arrest and can cause difficulty breathing as well. The only time a Taser was to be used was IN LIEU OF DEADLY FORCE. That means that an officer should only resort to using the Taser when the officer would otherwise be ready to use a firearm to subdue the threat from the suspect. It was never meant as a "convienient" means to subdue unruley suspects. Physical force, pepper spray, and a PR-24 are still sufficient devices for handling such matters. Unfortunately, the police are either lazy and use it because they dont want to break a sweat, or because they actually get off on using such force on people.


In either case, the weapon was used improperly in this situation, because the situation did not dictate such force. It completely violated the force continium, and in addition the weapon is really not suitable for someone that age. Whatever.........just another day in the American nightmar...i mean Dream...

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

The Taser was DESIGNED as a LESS THAN LETHAL WEAPON. The fact remains that it is still a WEAPON. It is certainly capable of causing cardiac arrest and can cause difficulty breathing as well. The only time a Taser was to be used was IN LIEU OF DEADLY FORCE. That means that an officer should only resort to using the Taser when the officer would otherwise be ready to use a firearm to subdue the threat from the suspect. It was never meant as a "convienient" means to subdue unruley suspects. Physical force, pepper spray, and a PR-24 are still sufficient devices for handling such matters. Unfortunately, the police are either lazy and use it because they dont want to break a sweat, or because they actually get off on using such force on people.


In either case, the weapon was used improperly in this situation, because the situation did not dictate such force. It completely violated the force continium, and in addition the weapon is really not suitable for someone that age. Whatever.........just another day in the American nightmar...i mean Dream...

I was thinking pepper spray myself

[Odpierdol_sie!]

Whats more ethical, statutory rape or tazering a girl of 11?

I know people are gonna think WTF? but think about it, you go to a bar pull a gilr who looks 19 and turns out to be 15, next thing you are up in the dock of a big court trying plead with not doing time in jail for some drunken sexual act you took up with a girl you thought was the same age as you (19).

Ok fair enough if the girl is clearly under age, but where do you draw the line? This girl you can see is not much older than 13, so turns out that shes 11... hmmm now if you stuck your dick in her you would be in big trouble (no more than what you would be if she was 15 looking 19), but putting a tazer on her its all good coz she hit an officer.

All be it, the law is the law, but as far as i know the law sees it wrong to have a sexual relationship with a minor, even if you are close to that age yourself, but it sees it ok to tazer a child? to me that is child abuse and this cop should do time!

Yeah the cop thought she was older, yes well she wasnt and that same excuse wudnt stand up in court for you having bolted your load up her after 15 bottles of miller, but its all good when sticking 150000volts of electric thought her with the excuse she hit me, fvck off shes a child!!!! if you cant handle an 11 year old then i have to ask what are you doing in that job.

I know that neither of these has anything to do with one an other, but really makes you think doesnt it.... where is society going?

[200byjune]

ya this is bullshit. like the sister said if she cant handle an 11 year old girl she doesnt deserve to be a cop. come on. now i could get over this but i wont because i no damn well the cop is not ganna be disaplined. and the girl will end up in a bad place prolly juvie. no effence to you JACKED as your a cop or somthing but what are your thoughts on this is it legal?

[joescobra03]

wtf!

[jAcKeD!!!!]

the cop will get a little slap on the wrist and writen up thats.. its her word against the 11 year old. remeber cops , judges etc are all on the same team. it would be different if their was video evidence of the incident but as you know its the cops word against the defendents. as for you question 200byjune cops are trained to serve and protect we are trained to be obove everyone else, we go throw atleast 5 years of training. there was no need to use a taser, pepper spray at most esp with an 11 year old.

[qualityclrk1]

the cop will get a little slap on the wrist and writen up thats.. its her word against the 11 year old. remeber cops , judges etc are all on the same team. it would be different if their was video evidence of the incident but as you know its the cops word against the defendents. as for you question 200byjune cops are trained to serve and protect we are trained to be obove everyone else, we go throw atleast 5 years of training. there was no need to use a taser, pepper spray at most esp with an 11 year old.

5 years of training?? where the hell r u a cop?.....around here all u need is 40 hours of gun training, a ton of video's from PTI.........and while ur watching u fill out a binder full of question and then u get issued your badge from the country sheriff....... <-Small town police officers are schmucks from high school who got tired of being picked on, so they now want a badge to feel cool or superior...they're their own special clique of people and they thrive on the same thing = authority

[jAcKeD!!!!]

canada... you need your 2 year police foundations degree then you go to police college for another 2-3 years and train there then you wait till you get hired.

[Red Ketchup]

Indeed, in this province to be a cop you need 3 years police sciences in college, and then 2 years at the police academ before you can even think of applying for a cop job in a city or provincial dept.

And I guess that cop must think he's a real big man for tazering an 11 year old kid... what a douche... Any basic immobilisation technique a half decently trained cop knows could have been used on her, I doubt there was any need for weapons or even pepper spray.

Red

[SaSqUaDgE]

hahaha

[thegodfather]

I didn't know Dunkin Donuts had a University...

[jAcKeD!!!!]

what province you from Red because in Ontario all you need is 2 years of police foundations.

[Amorphic]

amazingly bad behavior.

[qualityclrk1]

jacked and red- i wasn't trying to sound like a smart ass......i reread my post and someone may have taken it the wrong way...i'm just impressed that someplace actually makes u earn ur position....i'd have an easier time showing someone like urselves respect....it's just hard for me to do that when the cops around here are just people off the street with a grudge....

[thegodfather]

jacked and red- i wasn't trying to sound like a smart ass......i reread my post and someone may have taken it the wrong way...i'm just impressed that someplace actually makes u earn ur position....i'd have an easier time showing someone like urselves respect....it's just hard for me to do that when the cops around here are just people off the street with a grudge....

Yea man, the word "Police" and "College Education" are like antonyms. All the cops around here need is a High School Diploma and like 16 weeks of the academy and they're good to go. Of course its "preferrential" to have 60 college credits. Even so, they take joke classes which a person in a coma could pass.

[lotaquestions]

how bout the girls hair?lol the girl had mental promblems and was clearly out of control, hince the reason the teacher called the cops, and kids with mental problems of any age do not respond to verbal threats, etc. the same as others, and the one thing that every one understands no matter what the iq is pain. and the quiqest and easiest way to get this girls attention is with a taser/pepper spray. say that a male teacher would have been there and he would have had to physically restrain her b/c she posed a threat to other kids in the class room, he would be in even more trouble. in my eyes the cop acted appropriatly? she had to gain control of the situation and she obviously chose a method that worked.

[qualityclrk1]

how bout the girls hair?lol the girl had mental promblems and was clearly out of control, hince the reason the teacher called the cops, and kids with mental problems of any age do not respond to verbal threats, etc. the same as others, and the one thing that every one understands no matter what the iq is pain. and the quiqest and easiest way to get this girls attention is with a taser/pepper spray. say that a male teacher would have been there and he would have had to physically restrain her b/c she posed a threat to other kids in the class room, he would be in even more trouble. in my eyes the cop acted appropriatly? she had to gain control of the situation and she obviously chose a method that worked.

No.....he didn't.....

Parents sign waivers for the mental....at my high school we had students who were 15 but were built like 35 year old men with mental disabilities- and no, i'm not exagerating....they were in a class called "TMH"....which i still don't know what it stood for, but i just pretend it stood for "the mentally handicapped"....When there was a problem the teacher would send an alert to the office, then the secretary would get on the PA and issue a "Blue Call for (insert Dean's last name here), and (insert Principal's last name hear) in TMH Room"......then next thing u know u'd see them SPRINTING down the halls... the principal and the dean would literally have to wrestle this kid to the ground and subdue him.....the parents who sent the kid to the school were full aware that this would happen....and after it happened enough our principal was able to resolve the conflict with talk, i don't care how mental the kid was, after enough times- the kid knew what the principal was there for and didn't want to be taken down again lol.. Never once did my school resort to going so low that it's students were TAZED....if that shit happened at my school my principal would have went fvcking nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...i have a lot of respect for my ex-principal, he was a hell of a man, and would have never let that shit happen..

[nalbano34]

She punched the cop in the face, taze her ass!! I am sorry, but age is not anything these day. 6 y.o. kids murder people so how do you know what this punk has in store. Would it have been better to attack the girl? The issue is you will go wrong with any use of force due to her age. We need to get over that. In the streets 11 is like a suburban 18 y.o.

[qualityclrk1]

She punched the cop in the face, taze her ass!! I am sorry, but age is not anything these day. 6 y.o. kids murder people so how do you know what this punk has in store. Would it have been better to attack the girl? The issue is you will go wrong with any use of force due to her age. We need to get over that. In the streets 11 is like a suburban 18 y.o.

....stick to the streets, cuz where i come from 11 years old is 11 years old.......not 18...i sure as hell wouldn't find justification in fvcking an 11 year old cuz they're "from the streets"

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

idk, Im just not seeing this age thing.

For example take a midget, whose 25. He does the same thing as this 11 year old, 5 foot whatever 160 lbs. So its ok to taser this 3 foot 60lbs midget? just cuz hes over the "age limit".

Yes, age is one thing, but you do have to take in other factors.

Now Im not saying it was the right thing todo, but this whole "well shes 11" is getting kinda ridiculous. or maybe im just mis-understanding completely

[CollegeBoy85]

Where I come from at 11 you can do some damage. I mean the hit prob didnt hurt but that girl needed a good tasering. In Gary 11 yr olds get caught with guns all the time.

[qualityclrk1]

idk, Im just not seeing this age thing.

For example take a midget, whose 25. He does the same thing as this 11 year old, 5 foot whatever 160 lbs. So its ok to taser this 3 foot 60lbs midget? just cuz hes over the "age limit".

Yes, age is one thing, but you do have to take in other factors.

Now Im not saying it was the right thing todo, but this whole "well shes 11" is getting kinda ridiculous. or maybe im just mis-understanding completely

shes 11........................the maturity level isn't there..20 somethign year old midgets act like 20 something year olds........the cops life wasn't even in danger......idk why u guys keep throwing up hypothetical's like "well here 11 year olds get caught with guns all the time"...well then SHIT if they have a gun then yes- probably a shot from the taser is necessary!!!!!!!!!! BUT THE 11 YEAR OLD GIRL PUNCHED!!!!! TASERS CAN KILL AND YOU CAN'T DEBATE THAT- ITS PROVEN, ITS AN ALTERNATIVE TO USING DEADLY FORCE- IT'S NOT MEANT FOR ANYTHING SHORT THAN WHAT A REGULAR .45 CALIBER PISTOL IS USED FOR

[rockinred]

Where I come from at 11 you can do some damage. I mean the hit prob didnt hurt but that girl needed a good tasering. In Gary 11 yr olds get caught with guns all the time.

11 yr olds can do damage with their bare hands???? where the hell do you come from??? anyone on here who thinks an 11 yr old can be intimidating and needs to be treated like an adult, has issues.... either that or they are 13 yrs old on this board....

quality,, even the statement about the 15 year old in high school is drastic in comparison... 11-15 is quite a change in hormones and growing up.... 11 yr old is still a baby needing care....11 yr old with a mouth or attitude is just that a big baby wth disciplinary issues 5th or 6th grade...no need for a taze...

and those who are saying she is big, she is standing next to a small framed lady who is bigger than her.... I have a neice who is 9 and heavy set, and if some asshole lady copy tazes her just because she is running her mouth and acting out by raising her hand will be in for a lawsuit at the minimum....not to mention she would get a beating by my brother, but still..deadly force??? wtf, shame on all those who say it is acceptable.

[CollegeBoy85]

I made sure to say the hit didnt hurt read alil more next time bro. But I strongly beleve its the parents fault that girl acted all crazy and I think it could be helped by a good old fasion slap across the face. Growing up if I fu*ked up I got my as* a good whoopin and it made me grow up with discipline. Tasers dont hurt extreme or permanently damage people Id rather get a taser shock than a bee sting anyday. the pain stops as soon as the button is let go. I still beleve a good taser shock prob helped that girl

[goodcents]

I'm just picturing day care staff carrying tasers Take my ghramn cracker, you.....(zap)

[goodcents]

Next they will come out with the lighter voltage model for 2 yr olds

[IronReload04]

both parties are wrong here

1. come on, the 11 year old is a piece of shit.....and I dont believe her mother for one second...

2. yes, tazer was absolutely excessive force.....if the woman cop needed the tazer, she has no business being a cop. the tazer is unconstitutional

[lucabratzi]

come on now... 11 year is still a baby in my books regardless of their size... try and think of any lil kids you know and think about them getting tazed... you can pretty much grab a kid by the arm and tell them what to do if they get out of control...imo

Dont matter how old they are. You think there hasnt been any cases of an 11 year old doin extreme harm to someone else. There are 11 year olds that will stab u for nothing. The news has a way of makin people look horrible.

[lotaquestions]

No.....he didn't.....

Parents sign waivers for the mental....at my high school we had students who were 15 but were built like 35 year old men with mental disabilities- and no, i'm not exagerating....they were in a class called "TMH"....which i still don't know what it stood for, but i just pretend it stood for "the mentally handicapped"....When there was a problem the teacher would send an alert to the office, then the secretary would get on the PA and issue a "Blue Call for (insert Dean's last name here), and (insert Principal's last name hear) in TMH Room"......then next thing u know u'd see them SPRINTING down the halls... the principal and the dean would literally have to wrestle this kid to the ground and subdue him.....the parents who sent the kid to the school were full aware that this would happen....and after it happened enough our principal was able to resolve the conflict with talk, i don't care how mental the kid was, after enough times- the kid knew what the principal was there for and didn't want to be taken down again lol.. Never once did my school resort to going so low that it's students were TAZED....if that shit happened at my school my principal would have went fvcking nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...i have a lot of respect for my ex-principal, he was a hell of a man, and would have never let that shit happen..

didnt you say that he would have to take him down? if you are a 110 woman how able are you to take down and restrain a 135+ tmh kid? the woman police officer acted appropriatly, imo. we all know that cops are normal people just like us, sure they have taken some self defense calsses, but that dosnt mean that they can whip the avg guys tail. so what they have to do is use other tactics such as pepper spray, tazers, guns and power in numbers.

what do you suppose the officer should have done? stand there and continue to let the girl punch her or another student/teacher? no. she should diffuse the situation in the most effective and quickest manner. with hinesite being 20-20 she probablly would have rather used pepper spray, or wait for help, if possible. the fact is that cops have to have the upper hand to enforce the law, though flawed, is still better than every one having to making their own law.

[rockinred]

Dont matter how old they are. You think there hasnt been any cases of an 11 year old doin extreme harm to someone else. There are 11 year olds that will stab u for nothing. The news has a way of makin people look horrible.

yea, well a 5 year old kid can pull a trigger on a gun...so what? what does an 11 year old able to stab or pull a gun have to do with this story??? why do people keep saying on this thread that an 11 year can be deadly with a deadly weapon? who cares???? This is about a kid that was acting out? no gun...no knife... no bat... no rock... no use of deadly force..... where is your reasoning???

change the story and say the 11 yr old kid was pointing a gun and knife in a stand off an no one would say a thing about the officer's actions on here... this kid allegedly raised her hand at the lady officer??? big deal... So I suppose if I was drunk and unruly and raised my hand at a police officer, I deserve to be shot? Cause I weigh 240 right now?? you people need to get real.. and I hope none of you stating this are police officers because if you are you need to check your cognitive abilities.

[Red Ketchup]

what province you from Red because in Ontario all you need is 2 years of police foundations.

Quebec...

And I made a typo, it's 2 (not 3) years college in "Police Tech", and then 2 years at the provincial academy, and thats required for all municipal and provincial cops here.

A handfull of cops can get in without the 2 years police tech college diploma, they are called "conventionnals", but they need at the very least a university masters degree or two bachelors and still have to go to the academy.

Red