nolva & clomid

[allnatural101]

I have my pct lined up; novla & clomid. Once I finish talking omnas (750mg - m/w/t) for 10 weeks, I know I should wait 18-21 day until I do my pct.

So here is my question:

Should I do nolva first for 3-4 weeks and then jump on clomid for 3 weeks? Or should I combine them?

Advise on the dosage would be greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!!!

[allnatural101]

bump.

[stocky121]

I have my pct lined up; novla & clomid. Once I finish talking omnas (750mg - m/w/t) for 10 weeks, I know I should wait 18-21 day until I do my pct.

So here is my question:

Should I do nolva first for 3-4 weeks and then jump on clomid for 3 weeks? Or should I combine them?

Advise on the dosage would be greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!!!

wait 21 days and then start pct. nolva and clomid for 4 weeks

[allnatural101]

^Thanks for the input stocky. So you are saying to run them both at the same time. Cool.

Is the following dosage fine:

1 week: Nolva 40mg, Clomid 100mg
2-4 week: Nolva 20mg, Clomid 50mg

I want to be easy on clomid. I just don't feel like looking my eye sight.

[allnatural101]

^any comments on my dosage???

[stocky121]

^Thanks for the input stocky. So you are saying to run them both at the same time. Cool.

Is the following dosage fine:

1 week: Nolva 40mg, Clomid 100mg
2-4 week: Nolva 20mg, Clomid 50mg

I want to be easy on clomid. I just don't feel like looking my eye sight.

if you can run them both for 4 week's at 20mg nolvadex and 100mg clomid

[allnatural101]

I'll try, thanks again.

[sassbs11]

Any particular reason you running both m8?

[stocky121]

Any particular reason you running both m8?

just trying to make the recoverery faster

[duggadoo]

they both bind to different receptor sites and they both have good impact on bringing htpa back to normal in timely fashion

[allnatural101]

But once I'll run them both, will 4 weeks will be enough?

[M302_Imola]

But once I'll run them both, will 4 weeks will be enough?

yes four weeks will be sufficient.

[allnatural101]

sounds good, thanks.

[Swifto]

I'd throw in an oral whilst your waiting for PCT to begin anyhow. Winstrol, Dbol or Tbol.

15-20 days after your final shot, start Clomid/Nolva.

wk 1-5 Clomid 25-50mg/ED
wk 1-5 Nolva 20mg/ED

AI if needed.

[allnatural101]

I'd throw in an oral whilst your waiting for PCT to begin anyhow. Winstrol, Dbol or Tbol.

15-20 days after your final shot, start Clomid/Nolva.

wk 1-5 Clomid 25-50mg/ED
wk 1-5 Nolva 20mg/ED

AI if needed.

^Why such a low dosage of clomid? Personally I was thinking 50mg but 25mg?

[Swifto]

^Why such a low dosage of clomid? Personally I was thinking 50mg but 25mg?

Endo's prescribe doses of 25-50mg/ED. Those doses have been proven to effectively raise testosterone in hypogondal men. Sides seem to become evident on doses above that.

[allnatural101]

Thanks.

[sisga]

Don't do Nolva and clomid do this:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=345738

[allnatural101]

^No permission to see the link. Please explain why not?!?!?

[maroZ]

I'd throw in an oral whilst your waiting for PCT to begin anyhow. Winstrol, Dbol or Tbol.

15-20 days after your final shot, start Clomid/Nolva.

wk 1-5 Clomid 25-50mg/ED
wk 1-5 Nolva 20mg/ED

AI if needed.

new to this before PCT. what does dbol or winni do for the 3 weeks after last inject?

and antoher question, if i already took dbol for the first 4 weeks of cycle is it cool to take it fot week 12-14 then do PCT. please expalin

thanks

[allnatural101]

[Swifto]

new to this before PCT. what does dbol or winni do for the 3 weeks after last inject?

and antoher question, if i already took dbol for the first 4 weeks of cycle is it cool to take it fot week 12-14 then do PCT. please expalin

thanks

Whilst you wait for the long estered androgen to exit your system (Enan, Cyp, Sust etc..), often taking 10-20 days, you can remain anabolic by taking an oral and not risk losing gains leading to PCT.

[bigracso]

Don't do Nolva and clomid do this:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=345738

No permission to see the link. Please explain why not?!?!?

thanks

[maroZ]

Whilst you wait for the long estered androgen to exit your system (Enan, Cyp, Sust etc..), often taking 10-20 days, you can remain anabolic by taking an oral and not risk losing gains leading to PCT.

ok, thanks iget it

[sisga]

The link involves the test taper method which I and many other BBers have tried to great success.

The link has been moved to http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=105 ie. One on one with the staff. I'm not sure why but I believe that the boys are looking into it and I'm sure that this will grow to be rather interesting and help many of us to see things in a different light.

I'm not sure if the forum topic can be viewed by all at this point in time. I think it can be viewed by moderators and myself only.

[Swifto]

The link involves the test taper method which I and many other BBers have tried to great success.

The link has been moved to http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=105 ie. One on one with the staff. I'm not sure why but I believe that the boys are looking into it and I'm sure that this will grow to be rather interesting and help many of us to see things in a different light.

I'm not sure if the forum topic can be viewed by all at this point in time. I think it can be viewed by moderators and myself only.

There are many ways in which one can end a cycle. Another idea is to switch to less inhibitory compounds whilst compounds like Testosterone (that cause shutdown) exist your system. Whether this works or not is another thing. Some (on this board) have tried it and failed, whilst others have reported it to work.

An example would be to use Wisntrol, Tbol, Dbol, Masteron, EQ or Primo for a number of weeks alone (4-8 weeks) whilst you have finished the testosterone base of your cycle. Something like:

wk 1-12 Test Enan 500mg/wk
wk 12-20 Winstrol 50mg/ED

Instead of simply ending your cycle and going into PCT, ease into it. Its more complicated than that, but thats it put pretty simply.

Try it and see. It may work, may not. I'm trying it next cycle.

[sisga]

There are many ways in which one can end a cycle. Another idea is to switch to less inhibitory compounds whilst compounds like Testosterone (that cause shutdown) exist your system. Whether this works or not is another thing. Some (on this board) have tried it and failed, whilst others have reported it to work.

An example would be to use Wisntrol, Tbol, Dbol, Masteron, EQ or Primo for a number of weeks alone (4-8 weeks) whilst you have finished the testosterone base of your cycle. Something like:

wk 1-12 Test Enan 500mg/wk
wk 12-20 Winstrol 50mg/ED

Instead of simply ending your cycle and going into PCT, ease into it. Its more complicated than that, but thats it put pretty simply.

Try it and see. It may work, may not. I'm trying it next cycle.

The idea behind the test taper method is that the only substance that is in your system is tesosterone, the only aas recognised by our body as a natural to it hormone. By gradually reducing the amount of test supplied artificially our HPTA will slowly adjust to supplement the remainning test that it needs over time gradually and eventually coming to equilibrium on its own. This will not work with any other substance.

If your able, read my post otherwise google "test taper prisoner" and you will find everything you need to know on this and more.

[sisga]

At 100mg of test per week with the use of a Serm there is no HPTA suppression.
At 25mg of test per week there is no suppresion without the use of a Serm.