Dbol Test C cycle

[Kansas City Boy]

Im running dbol @ 25mg ed for 4 weeks
Test C @ 500mg weekly for 12 weeks.


What should I use for pct? And is 25 mg ed too low. I have never used an oral



5'9 - 185 - 20yrs 8%bfc diet = on point Weight Routine = on point

This is going to be my second cycle

[PT]

25mgs isnt a bad dose but if you want to jump up to 30 or 35 after your first week thats fine. as for pct i would use 3-4 weeks of nolva at 20mgs ed along with 20mgs of aromasin or .5mgs of armidex

[will_work]

i doint mean to hijack the thread but could that pct work with a (test e) d-bol cycle too?

[RANA]

i doint mean to hijack the thread but could that pct work with a (test e) d-bol cycle too?

Test is test, I would run a combo of Nolva and Clomid and save your armidex for any signs of gyno.

[will_work]

Test is test, I would run a combo of Nolva and Clomid and save your armidex for any signs of gyno.

thanks

[one8nine]

Test is test, I would run a combo of Nolva and Clomid and save your armidex for any signs of gyno.

in my opinion this is bad advice- no disrespect meant just showing an opposing view

nolva can do everything clomid can do at a lower dose and less side effects
an AI in pct is very helpful. the nolva to block existing estrogen while Proviron or Arimidex or Aromasin stop the production of further estrogen production
i don't believe clomid has a place in the body building world as long as Nolvadex is around

[RANA]

in my opinion this is bad advice- no disrespect meant just showing an opposing view

nolva can do everything clomid can do at a lower dose and less side effects
an AI in pct is very helpful. the nolva to block existing estrogen while Proviron or Arimidex or Aromasin stop the production of further estrogen production
i don't believe clomid has a place in the body building world as long as Nolvadex is around

No disrespect taken. IMO nolva and clomid together would be ideal! nolva of course is better at getting your natty test up... but dont don't think you should leave out the clomid! I think its possible to keep more gains when both are used! I wouldn't take AI unless needed for gyno.

[one8nine]

No disrespect taken. IMO nolva and clomid together would be ideal! nolva of course is better at getting your natty test up... but dont don't think you should leave out the clomid! I think its possible to keep more gains when both are used! I wouldn't take AI unless needed for gyno.

what do you feel clomid can do that nolva cannot?

[Kansas City Boy]

I have a question to add to this thread. If you have cycled before and have had no problems with gyno. Can it still occurr at any time during any cycle?

[one8nine]

I have a question to add to this thread. If you have cycled before and have had no problems with gyno. Can it still occurr at any time during any cycle?

its possible. it never hurts to be ready with an ai

[RANA]

what do you feel clomid can do that nolva cannot?

“When a bodybuilder comes off a steroid cycle, natural testosterone production is zero and the levels of the steroids taken in the blood are diminishing. This leaves the ratios of catabolic : anabolic hormones in the blood high, hence the body is in a state of catabolism, and, as a result, much of the muscle tissue that was gained on the cycle is now going to be lost.

Clomid stimulates the hypothalamus to, in turn stimulant the anterior pituitary gland (aka hypophysis) to release gonadotrophic hormones. The gonadotrophic hormones are follicle stimulating hormone (FSH)and luteinizing hormone (LH - aka interstitial cell stimulating hormone (ICSH)). FSH stimulates the testes to produce more testosterone, and LH stimulates them to secrete more testosterone. This feedback mechanism is known as the hypothalamic-pituitary-testes axis (HPTA), and results in an increase of the body's own testosterone production and blood levels rise, to, in part, compensate for the diminishing levels of exogenous steroids. This is vital to minimise post cycle muscle losses.”

If your only going to take one I would say Nolva but why not both? Nolva is considered a more powerful anti-estrogen and clomid is generally been used as a PCT.

[duggadoo]

i look at the way rana does they are both fairly inexpensive and both are proven to work so what could hurt by usuing both (besides some hepatoxic tax on the liver) and throwing an AI at a low dose to keep rebound in check is a good idea as well like 189 said