AAS – For step one, Testosterone should be assumed as the base of almost every cycle. First off, every good cycle includes test. The reason test needs to be included (even at as little as 150mg per week, because that is still double the average man’s level) is to replace natural Testosterone that will be suppressed or shut down during the cycle. Aside from that, testosterone is a great, well-rounded hormone for good AR binding, muscle gain, appetite increase and red blood cell increase. The only exception to this rule is a short DHT only cycle. In a three to four week cycle a DHT hardly has enough time to suppress the natural production of test, much less have a strong enough effect that natural levels need to be supplemented or replaced.
Second a 19Nor should be chosen. Deca is better for joints, has less frequent injection times, and causes less aggression; Tren has better AR binding, fat loss and lean muscle gain. The only time that Deca and Tren should be used together is when the long estered form of Deca is being used and the short estered Tren, or 17aa Tren is being used as a kick-start; their negative side effects overcome the good.
Third, a DHT should be chosen. Masteron is injectable and better for lean muscle gain, and on the other hand Winstrol is available in an oral form and is better for fat loss. Winstrol and Masteron are not uncommon to be used together and can have possible synergetic effects together.
Now that three hormones have been chosen, doses should be chosen. Test can be used anywhere between 150mg and 2g per week with most average doses being 350mg to 500mg. Based on the Testosterone dose chosen, the dose of the 19nor class can be chosen. The same goes for 19nors as long as progesterone is controlled correctly to avoid side effects. The two most common ways to use 19nors are to dose Tren or Deca equally to test, or Tren is lowered as low as half the dose of test if the side effects are too strong, or sometimes Deca is used between 100mg and 250mg per week as joint therapy and not expected to do much of anything for strength or muscle gain. As for DHT, this dose is completely subjective. Because Winstrol is 17aa it shouldn’t be taken at more than 100mg per day, and I see anything more than 200mg per day of Masteron a waste. If Winstrol is being used alone without the addition of testosterone or any other hormone the dose and length is best at 100mg per day for twenty-five days, although I would never advise a cycle without Testosterone. Two different types of 17aas should never be run together in a cycle, and never for more than seven weeks at a time.
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