Boldenone Undecylenate

[shadyb]

I am about to run a bold cycle, im 5'10 155, 24. Been lifting for 7 years i just dont get big skinny kid for life.
This is my second cycle i did test e 200 a week for 10 weeks and put on 15lbs. which i think is alot for such a small amount. But i lost almost all of it 3 months later form poor diet and no pcp. So im doing bold.


How much and how long i dont want to use test again i lost hair from just 200 a week.

300 a week for 12 weeks?

[BIG-N-Brazil]

1) You need to get a diet and stick to it.
2) You NEED test with almost every cycle..

[shadyb]

i got my diet down now, no way around not using test?. and bold alone for a longer time? im looking to put on 10lbs and keep it on. Im not trying to get jacked all at once.

[BIG-N-Brazil]

I would not suggest running bold alone but you can wait for more imput... Why are you so against test? Nothing is going to get you all jacked at once if you are not eating right. i think you could probably put on 10 pounds with just a diet.

[stallion_1]

yes u need test since bold shall shut ur balls

[stallion_1]

I am about to run a bold cycle, im 5'10 155, 24. Been lifting for 7 years i just dont get big skinny kid for life.
This is my second cycle i did test e 200 a week for 10 weeks and put on 15lbs. which i think is alot for such a small amount. But i lost almost all of it 3 months later form poor diet and no pcp. So im doing bold.


How much and how long i dont want to use test again i lost hair from just 200 a week.

300 a week for 12 weeks?

id run eq at least 400 mg a week for 10 weeks but with test for 12 weeks

[shadyb]

the test def got me bigger and stronger, i lost hair so i was trying to avoid it and i felt alot of water weight, if i need it to run the bold ill do it maybe just less then last time.

J/w if anyone was run bold alone and how it worked out

[BIG-N-Brazil]

There are some things that can help with hair loss but if you are prone to it you might be out of luck....Do a search and see whats worked for other people.

[ironbanger]

eq should be ran at 600mg a week 10 weeks IMO

[mkrulic]

i got my diet down now, no way around not using test?. and bold alone for a longer time? im looking to put on 10lbs and keep it on. Im not trying to get jacked all at once.

you can do this w/o gear. there is nothing eq can do for you that you cannot do w/ proper diet and training. this is not the case w/ other aas. consider goals and then you should come to the conclusion that eq is unnecessary

[Bigmax]

eq should be ran at 600mg a week 10 weeks IMO

More like 14-16 weeks to get optimal results bro.

[WARMachine]

the test def got me bigger and stronger, i lost hair so i was trying to avoid it and i felt alot of water weight, if i need it to run the bold ill do it maybe just less then last time.

J/w if anyone was run bold alone and how it worked out

Sounds like my brother, ran his first cycle at 250mg of Test E 2xW and lost some hair, got scared, and switched to EQ for the rest of the cycle.. His strength went up considerably, but not too much size gain after he finished PCT.


take the dutasteride if test is in your cycle
nizoral 2% as your shampoo
Spiro 5% cream blocks androgens and is all you can do

Nizoral - leave in "conditioner/shampoo" or w/e (prevents DHT from forming on the head)
Rogaine ExStr - Promotes gains -----topical liquid
Finasteride - stops DHT from forming on the head. Pill -take 1mg daily. (argueably 1mg)


EQ is pretty mild on the hairline, if you are predisposed to balding then you might encounter it no matter what. If you run another cycle you should get duta, finasteride spiro and nizoral if you really want to avoid and hair loss.

[Booz]

yes u need test since bold shall shut ur balls

you could have explained this a little better mate....................

[one8nine]

you could have explained this a little better mate....................

ahahhaah how about this

*Suppress – Decrease natural testosterone production
*Shut down – Completely stop natural testosterone production
*Testosterone – Testosterone is necessary for other functions in the human body other than muscular and cellular development. Without it, one could potentially have problems sexually, mentally, and physically. The body has a system called the LH feedback loop. The more androgenic hormones that you have in your body, the less your body will feel the need to produce any testosterone at all. Basically, the point is Testosterone is necessary in almost any cycle, except a short DHT cycle (which will be explained later). 19nors should never be taken without test. This also illustrates why PCT is necessary.
*my (one8nine's) starter pack
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=352741

[one8nine]

I am about to run a bold cycle, im 5'10 155, 24. Been lifting for 7 years i just dont get big skinny kid for life.
This is my second cycle i did test e 200 a week for 10 weeks and put on 15lbs. which i think is alot for such a small amount. But i lost almost all of it 3 months later form poor diet and no pcp. So im doing bold.


How much and how long i dont want to use test again i lost hair from just 200 a week.

300 a week for 12 weeks?

300mg a week wont do spit might as well stay natural

[CheddaNips]

300mg a week wont do spit might as well stay natural

+2 go 600

[Gears]

300mg a week wont do spit might as well stay natural

Not only that but supressing natty test levels is going to be counter-productive. You might even see less gains than you would get naturally if you only take enough to supress yourself.

[shadyb]

damn lots of info thanks ... i picked up test e 200 today only 5ml ill get some more in a few weeks, Fu*k it ill loose some hair, picked up some shampoo and nartual vita pills too.

Now that i got the test i did 200 last time and was more then happy with the gains. Can i do less? like 100 or that wont do s*it.. i dont want to shut down my balls.

So more then 300 of bold? sounds like alot for someone my size
And 200 a week of test e?
i would like to do 300 bold 100 test for 12 weeks

[shadyb]

i like the idea of running the bold for a longer time then i was thinking 15 weeks? im going of what u guys say ill pick sumthen in the middle.
throw some nums out there for my cycle ( keep in mind i want the test level low as i can) and im 5'10 155

[WARMachine]

Im not sure what to tell you.

You are too small to cycle to begin with, im sure your diet is well below par being you are only 155lbs.

And to top it off, you wanna run EQ @300/Wk and Test E@100/Wk???!!!

Take some advice and hit the diet section dude, youre problem is one that can be solved by diet and better training rather than gear...

[Ashop]

I am about to run a bold cycle, im 5'10 155, 24. Been lifting for 7 years i just dont get big skinny kid for life.
This is my second cycle i did test e 200 a week for 10 weeks and put on 15lbs. which i think is alot for such a small amount. But i lost almost all of it 3 months later form poor diet and no pcp. So im doing bold.


How much and how long i dont want to use test again i lost hair from just 200 a week.

300 a week for 12 weeks?

I dont like a EQ only cycle personally

[shadyb]

im here to learn,
rule 1 -diet i got it ... i need to eat alot more
rule 2- test , (not eq ) just got a ton so im making it a test cycle
so now what do i use my eq for (throw it away) or just use it low anyway with the test

[BIG-N-Brazil]

Save it...

[shadyb]

i got sucked in to the eq, i read to much about the low sides and high qualty gains from 300.. but i see its just a bunch of sh*t and i wasted my money

thanks for the help , would of sucked working my ass out for 10 weeks and seen almost no gains

[WARMachine]

Yeah you can save it...

Get that diet and PCT in check before you think of starting!

Actually, what was your planned PCT for this, i see noone has bothered to ask.

[BIG-N-Brazil]

^^^^ good point

[shadyb]

well im not doing good so far, so what do you think i should do ? and when

[shadyb]

id like to cut back on the water ret like i said before
too, is one thing better then another for that?

[BIG-N-Brazil]

Look in the PCT fourm. Lots of info there and you should be able to find what you need.

[tboney]

You need to run the eq for at least 12 to 14 weeks.