first cyle dilemma

[bodybuilder1107]

ok so ive been on here awhile now and still have done nothing because im still learning but im almost done with a natural cut and ready to buy my first cycle, teste e is the common repsonse but i research that test p gives much cleaner and much better muscle gains, would thid be a better choice if the fear of injection wasnt a problem or is there more to it? i only get one first cycle so i want to gain the most and go big with it but in a safe way so what would be the most absolute gain the most cycle for a first one? thanks

[stallion_1]

ok so ive been on here awhile now and still have done nothing because im still learning but im almost done with a natural cut and ready to buy my first cycle, teste e is the common repsonse but i research that test p gives much cleaner and much better muscle gains, would thid be a better choice if the fear of injection wasnt a problem or is there more to it? i only get one first cycle so i want to gain the most and go big with it but in a safe way so what would be the most absolute gain the most cycle for a first one? thanks

test p does not retain as much water as test e, so people use it for cutting

test p must be injected eod whereas test e only 2 per week

test e is more newbie friendly

[WARMachine]

I like Prop...

If you can handle the ED injections, go for it!

If your diet is on point, you will gain no matter what kinda test you take.

Prop is generally used in cuttin cycles and doesnt give you that puffy look...

[WARMachine]

Test P must be injected EOD is correct Stallion, BUT

It SHOULD be injected ED!

Test Prop= EVERY DAY
or
Test E or C= 2x a week
i dont agree with short ester eod
short esters every day = best way to juice

[bodybuilder1107]

well if i use a dex while on test will it still be as clean as with prop?

[one8nine]

ok so ive been on here awhile now and still have done nothing because im still learning but im almost done with a natural cut and ready to buy my first cycle, teste e is the common repsonse but i research that test p gives much cleaner and much better muscle gains, would thid be a better choice if the fear of injection wasnt a problem or is there more to it? i only get one first cycle so i want to gain the most and go big with it but in a safe way so what would be the most absolute gain the most cycle for a first one? thanks

testosterone propionate vs. testosterone enanthate
test prop-
injected daily
peaks in 4-6 days
pct starts 2 days later
minimal bloat
more potent than test e mg for mg due to ester weight
recommended dosage- 50mg ed (350mg wk)
test enan-
injected 2x week
peaks in 4-6 weeks
pct starts 2 weeks later
noticeable bloat
less potent than test p mg for mg due to ester weight
recommended dosage- 250mg 2x week (500mg wk)

[one8nine]

well if i use a dex while on test will it still be as clean as with prop?

probably, yes

[bodybuilder1107]

so whats the outcome is the best first teste e or test p for the best gains?

[one8nine]

so whats the outcome is the best first teste e or test p for the best gains?

assuming your diet/training were on point-
test p

because it kicks in sooner
10 week cycle of test e- 4-6 weeks peak
10 week cycle of test p- 8-9 weeks peak

[bodybuilder1107]

so how about a 12 week of test e with a 4 week kickstart of prop at 100mg every other day , will that cover all basis?

[one8nine]

so how about a 12 week of test e with a 4 week kickstart of prop at 100mg every other day , will that cover all basis?

try 50mg ed prop. eod is not okay.
or why not 6 weeks of dbol if youre scared of needles?

[bodybuilder1107]

im not scared of needles but not really into the dbol bloat and strength gain just to lose it all after i stop taking them i want the most possible keepable gains my goal is to hit next beach season as a monster

[one8nine]

im not scared of needles but not really into the dbol bloat and strength gain just to lose it all after i stop taking them i want the most possible keepable gains my goal is to hit next beach season as a monster

dbol bloat is stopped by an AI
you would only lose gains if your diet and training suck
are you sure youre ready to cycle?

[bodybuilder1107]

yes i was told that dbol was useless by a pretty big member on here and through research have found that the prop kickstart gives gains from the start until the teste kicks in at wk 5 to run just e throughout until pct

[one8nine]

yes i was told that dbol was useless by a pretty big member on here and through research have found that the prop kickstart gives gains from the start until the teste kicks in at wk 5 to run just e throughout until pct

your call dude
dbol is not temp. unless you suck

[WARMachine]

Hahaha...

189 strikes again!