1st cycle for me....maybe i will add tren

[jstubert]

So i think pretty sure i'm ready for my first cycle. I;m 32 205 lbs, 5,11 pretty low bf. If been working out just about every day for the last 6 months and i started swimming a few months ago for cardio. Generally i lift 3-5 times a week and swim 3-5 times a week for a total of 8 workouts a week in some combination. I'm going to cut back the swimming and start climbing because the outdoor pool is closing soon. Diet consists of mainly protien, very little carbs, i've cut out soft drinks, and hardly hardly drink any more

my first cycle will certainly be the following:


Week 1 to 10: 500mg of test weekly
Week 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
Week 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Week 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Clenbuterol for PCT



i'm thinking of adding some tren in there. What are your thoughts? and is there any thing else i should add in there to counter any problems with tren.
how much tren should i take and suggestions on how many times i should inject

oh and i'm not in a serious relationship with any female that could cause anger issues with tren. I'm a pretty mellow guy in general..i mean really mellow, hardly get angry at all. I have a few random hook ups ready to go if my sex drive explodes.

Any particluar tren i should consider.

my choices are

TRENBOLONE
TRENBOLONE FORTE 200
TRENBOLONE MIX 150 10 ml vial
TRENBOLONE RETARD 100 10ml

i don't want to do deca because of the long term testing....i hear that is less of a concern with tren.

[CheddaNips]

Maybe read the rules next time

[CheddaNips]

oh and in my exp if the site offers pre-made cycles. I wouldnt trust them. THAT IS JUST MY .02!!!

[butter]

what kind of test r u taking and what results r u looking for bulk up slim down ?????? what is your stats

[butter]

and ya no need to put your labs name on this site what do u look to gain by doing that u r hurting everybody by making that public

[redz]

Edit that quickly,no lab names!

[jstubert]

sorry about the names...just copied and pasted from the supplier.

the test is test enantate - which i guess has more water retention but is better for a bulking cycle.

I want to get up to about 230-235 in bulk then in about a year or so cut back down for climbing. Right now i just want to bulk up. I plan to only do maybe one or two cycles, which is why i'm thinking i should just bight the bullet and add the tren since i'm not married, have no kids, and i'm self employeed right now. So little threat of damaging my family or social life or professional for that matter.

thanks.

[Jfew44]

Forget the tren for your first cycle. Test only is a great beginner cycle. Some add dbol for the first 4 weeks. Its up to you.

[WARMachine]

I agree with JFew, Test E@250mg 2xW for a beginner cycle, with an option of Dbol or Winny based on personal goals...

Now, let me see these!


Age 32
height 5'11
weight 205lb
BF% ?
diet summary/# meals per day (GO into detail! I Include daily macros as well!) ?
years lifting / workout split ?
cycle experience ?
pct/estrogen control knowledge ?

[MeanMachine2000]

I'm surprised nobody said it yet but....6 Months?? Don't you think you could gain more naturally first?? I'm not gonna preach to you but just think about first.... Steroids are not a quick fix. Oh and you say your only planning on doing one or two cycles and thats it........GOOD LUCK with that

[jstubert]

yea i know about the 6 month issue, ..before that i was climbing just about every other weekend and mountain biking..so ive stayed in pretty good shape..lifting wise i was only off lifting for maybe 4 months...

[WARMachine]

Damn nice catch MM2000! And hes right, everyone ALWAYS says its just gonna be one or two...

It never happens...

[WARMachine]

Lifting weights and exercising are two VERY different things my friend...

[inky-e]

Tren's a serious roid for a newb. I've done a few cycles and only now am I gonna use tren....enanthate.