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    Who Would Win?

    A special operations person such as a SEAL or Green Beret and a MMA fighter?
    They meet up in a street, no weapons, and go at it...

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    Kevin Nash of course

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    i'm going with special ops, cuz in the movies they're trained to kill, (i dunno about real life), and mma fighters are just that... fighters, not killers.

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    If they're trained like Steven Segal in Under Siege I would go with the special forces person but if not I would say the MMA fighter just because most will have pure strength and holds over a special forces person...I think. Good question.

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    I would vote special ops for the street, but I think it would be a much different story with rules and a ring.

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    Depends who we are talking about. What weight they each weigh... etc...


    I doubt Andy Wang is gonna beat the shit out of a 6'3 225lb Special Op.

    Wanderlei Silva vs. same guy. Different story...



    (Unless his name happens to be Mirko CroCop. We've already seen the outcome of that! haha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx View Post
    A special operations person such as a SEAL or Green Beret and a MMA fighter?
    They meet up in a street, no weapons, and go at it...
    I would think that a MMA fighter wouldn't have $hit on either of the two.

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    Depends on the fighter...

    Chuck, Rampage, Faber (to name a few) wouldn't be an issue

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    It definitely depends on a few things.

    We have to keep in mind that Pro MMA fighters are just that-Professional Fighters. So they fight for a living. Hand to Hand combat is only a small part of training for the Special Ops. Really they never want it to come to that and on top of Hand to Hand combat alot of the training is with weapons such as knives or the rifle.

    Personally...in just a street fight the MMA fighter would almost certainly win against a trained special op but if you add weapons into the mix then that is a whole different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    I would think that a MMA fighter wouldn't have $hit on either of the two.
    my thoughts exactly

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    seal, or the GB..

    reason being.. they don';t have an issue killing you, if that's the mission..

    no need to tap out.. just go out
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    example, **** (can't tell you who) entered into a room in a building 4 "insurgents" were inside, his weapon jammed, he went crazy, killed all 4 with his bare hands..

    amount of training MMA training received?? 0
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    The SEAL or Special Forces operator (or other special operations forces) would win in an anything goes confrontation. The MMA guy would be screaming for a timeout when he's getting his balls bitten off, ears torn from the sides of his head, and eyes gouged out.

    But if you put them both in a ring/octagon and apply MMA rules, the MMA guy would most likely win.

    Training to kill versus training to KO/submit are NOT the same thing.

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    On the flip side if you ran into a true street fighter who grew up street fighting and then turned into pro fighting like tyson in his prime I think he could have killed almost anyone on the street.

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    Depends on the person. Im sure theres some army people that think they are really tough and never been in a fight before and thus would get their ass kicked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    Depends on the person. Im sure theres some army people that think they are really tough and never been in a fight before and thus would get their ass kicked.
    If you are in spec ops, you ARE tough.... No thinking involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDawg1536 View Post
    If you are in spec ops, you ARE tough.... No thinking involved.
    I dont think they would be. Everyones like yeah the MMA fighters are good at fighting and only that... Well how does everyone propose the army fighter kill the mma fighter? Its not like the army man has some some special ability over the mma guy. MMA fighters essentially fight to the point where you would kill the person on a regular basis, i doubt army people do this ever if at all.

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    lets not mix army and special ops. Thats a whole new level.

    Anyone can join the army. But spec ops are trained killers.


    My money would go on the SEAL/GB.
    But I also can see an argument behind the MMA fighter.

    It would be fun to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    Depends on the person. Im sure theres some army people that think they are really tough and never been in a fight before and thus would get their ass kicked.
    Yea, but Navy Seals are a completely different story. They weed out the weak very early.

    I'll take the Seal everytime.

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    Sorry but i think this is pointless........

    Just too many variables..

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    Personally I would take a Force Recon Marine or MarSoc Marine over any of them....of course I was in the Marine Corps so that makes me extremely biased.

    But seriously....if we are talking just a straight up fight, like MMA rules....then the MMA fighter would not only win but he would dominate.

    If we are talking about fighting with weapons or extremely dirty then the Special Ops fighter would win.

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    Force Recon Marines are the baddest mofos on the planet period.

    1) Force Recon Marines
    2) SEALs/Special Ops
    3) Regular Marnie Infantry/Army Rangers
    4) Regular Army Infrantry
    5) Navy
    6) Air Force

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    This is not happening in a ring or cage.


    And I don't think Force Recon are the baddest mofos

    SEAL's training is considered toughest military training in the world.

    Wont even touch on Delta Force, because they "don't exist" .....now we r talking baddest mofos on the planet

    But Special Ops in general, are all bad mofos

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    I think it would be the individual u cant stereo type one being more badass then the other you could have one guy who is just a straight killer who is just that a killer nothing more nothing less and it does not matter if he is a seal, beret, or a marine, or a MMArtist it doesnt matter to him because he is going to bite ur jugular and gouge out your eyes and rip your balls off. then go pick up his daughter from school and take her to ballet class and then go take a nap. so which is the baddest out of thoes in which you have stated. Spec OPs bad mofo's in general yes. but so are Seals and MMA people. so who wins IMO the badder mofo period

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx View Post
    This is not happening in a ring or cage.


    And I don't think Force Recon are the baddest mofos

    SEAL's training is considered toughest military training in the world.

    Wont even touch on Delta Force, because they "don't exist" .....now we r talking baddest mofos on the planet

    But Special Ops in general, are all bad mofos
    Just so you know, Force Recon and MarSoc train with the Seal's all the time. So your statement doesn't exactly hold up that the Seal's have the toughest training in the world.

    If we were going all out just tough ass training then you would also have to throw the French Foreign Legion in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Force Recon Marines are the baddest mofos on the planet period.

    1) Force Recon Marines
    2) SEALs/Special Ops
    3) Regular Marnie Infantry/Army Rangers
    4) Regular Army Infrantry
    5) Navy
    6) Air Force
    I dunno, Brandon Vera was in the Air Force and he would wipe the floor with Brian Stann.....

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    Too many variables, but ultimately the mindset of the special ops is soooo ridiculously tough that I don't think they would quit even if you broke their arm or leg, you would probably have to kill them in order to get those guys to stop fighting. All they do day in and day out is train to survive by ANY means possible. Tough to beat that mentality.

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    ^^^ Hes a better fighter than Stann...

    But I bet you Stann could shoot the wings off a fly from 300meters and Vera couldnt hit a 8X10 at 100M.


    Vera sucks ass btw...

    That kid is a serious prick. Ive never met someone so arrogant who sucked so bad.

    You would think you were talking to the greatest fighter of all time when you talk to him.

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    You guys must not know any military people(no offense).


    MMA guy clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooners04 View Post
    Too many variables, but ultimately the mindset of the special ops is soooo ridiculously tough that I don't think they would quit even if you broke their arm or leg, you would probably have to kill them in order to get those guys to stop fighting.
    Are you trying to suggest that anyone else would give up sooner in a fight for their life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Force Recon Marines are the baddest mofos on the planet period.

    1) Force Recon Marines
    2) SEALs/Special Ops
    3) Regular Marnie Infantry/Army Rangers
    4) Regular Army Infrantry
    5) Navy
    6) Air Force
    Delta is greater than 1-6...but they don't exist...

    And don't think I agree with Recon above SEAL. And you would need to put parajumpers above 3-6. Those dudes are tough SOBs.

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    Sorry, but this is an impossible question that no1 else can give an opinion on with 100% assurance.

    Everything in life is situational, to say that three guys met in the street and started fighting is ridiculous. People fight for a reason, and it's the reason that would sway the result.

    I would personally favour the Special Ops guy, "Do what it takes" and all that shit. But again, it's all speculation.

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    all i know is that i've spar'd with a marine and a seal. Marine = some damn good conditioning but other than that...nothin


    seal = trying some weird sh*t that I guess might work if the people they are spar'ing isn't trained, but for the most part it just put them in some vulnerable positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmy View Post
    all i know is that i've spar'd with a marine and a seal. Marine = some damn good conditioning but other than that...nothin


    seal = trying some weird sh*t that I guess might work if the people they are spar'ing isn't trained, but for the most part it just put them in some vulnerable positions.
    This is a big generalization but I understand you are saying this from your own experience.

    I will put my word on the line and say that any Instructor Trainer from the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program (MCMAP) will beat the living shit out of most Navy Seals......that's right I said it.

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