Best fat burning steroid

[jg42058p]

Whats the best steroid that you can stack to help burn fat and build lean tissue only? Is it winstrol? How about equipose? Maybe primobolan?

[Mulciber]

if i HAD to choose id say tren

[Amorphic]

Tren is BS ,go for primobolan imo. 1000 MG each week and you should be fine. Even at a calori deficit u can build some mass and loose your fat belly.

where are you coming up with this? Tren is BS? a gram of primo a week? give me a break. the cost to benefit ratio comparing primo to tren is ridiculous.

stop giving out terrible advice

[Amorphic]

diet burns fat more than any steroid. that being said, tren works the best for me

[Ashop]

diet burns fat more than any steroid. that being said, tren works the best for me

Welll said,,,I think MOST AAS will burn some fat to some degree,,,the outstanding on though is TRENBOLONE.

[ShadetreeJones]

If you run Winstrol with test and maintain a good clean diet, will you lose body fat?

[Amorphic]

If you run Winstrol with test and maintain a good clean diet, will you lose body fat?

winstrol hardens you up, its not a diet pill.

[ShadetreeJones]

winstrol hardens you up, its not a diet pill.

Interesting. How would you say it's different than Equipoise then? I always thought Winny would help reduce visceral fat.

[hankdiesel]

winny will not make you lose weight

[Garbanzo Dude]

3000mg of CARDIOSTEIN will hook it up!!!

[IRONBULLMASTER]

Best fat burner Clen or a ECA stack, I love tren but its the devils brew for me Cannot handle sides to dam old.

[schizophonic]

Best fat burner Clen or a ECA stack, I love tren but its the devils brew for me Cannot handle sides to dam old.

what are the most common side effects of tren (if stacked with test) ?

[Edgar]

what are the most common side effects of tren (if stacked with test) ?

you look so good you have to carry a stick to beat all the pvssy off!

[schizophonic]

you look so good you have to carry a stick to beat all the pvssy off!

LoOoOoOoL ... and aside from tht.. what ?

[canadian meat]

Ill have to say tren aswell. Winny will not make you burn fat but will take water off IMO theres nothing better then cardio and a good diet

[jg42058p]

thanks for all the repsonses... theyre very insightful. sounds like trenbolone takes the cake as the best fat burner.

Yeah of course diet and cardio is important, but I was just wondering which steroid has the best cutting effect

[WARMachine]

AAS do not burn fat directly...

Simple as that...

[hankdiesel]

AAS do not burn fat directly...

Simple as that...

I said winny doesn't but youre right. None of them do. Some say mast or tren can but AAS build muscle, not burn off body fat. Diet and cardio are more than important, they are essential!

[daem]

I said winny doesn't but youre right. None of them do. Some say mast or tren can but AAS build muscle, not burn off body fat.

Actually you're wrong...AAS doesn't directly build muscle...It increases nitrogen synthesis which allows for more rapid repair of torn muscle fibers when proper nutrition is introduced into the body.

The quicker the torn fibers heal, the more "gains" can occur in a shorter amount of time.

So, without getting into the super scientific response, AAS neither burn fat nor build muscle but merely help you accomplish those goals.

It all goes back diet and rest for either the cut/bulk.

[inky-e]

From personal experience...I'll say masteron has helped me burn more BF....IMO ...it kicks winnies ass up and down!!...Of course diet and training is the key.

[thebeast71]

would be badass if u could take tren by its self

[Amorphic]

would be badass if u could take tren by its self

why exactly would that be so 'badass'?

[WARMachine]

Just for the record, that would be a horrible idea...

[Mulciber]

yeah not a good idea.. i do know a few that do.. or run a very low dose of test.. but this is only because they are susceptible to estrogen related sides and this is the route they took..

[WARMachine]

^^^ This is true...

And until i see a proven study that says Tren and Mast DIRECTLY burn BF, then IMO, they do not...

[G-1000]

I want a happy pill.

[Mulciber]

classic animal study:

Lipogenesis in adipose tissue from ovariectomized and intact heifers immunized against estradiol and (or) implanted with trenbolone acetate.

St John LC, Ekeren PA, Crouse JD, Schanbacher BD, Smith SB.

Forty-two heifers were allotted randomly to six treatment groups: intact controls, intact heifers implanted with trenbolone acetate, ovariectomized heifers, ovariectomized heifers implanted with trenbolone acetate, intact heifers immunized against estradiol and intact heifers immunized against estradiol and implanted with trenbolone acetate. Blood titers of estradiol-17 beta were increased over 100-fold in heifers immunized against estradiol in Freund's complete adjuvant or saline:squalene/arlacel containing Mycobacterium. Lipogenic enzyme activities and acetate incorporation into fatty acids were increased in subcutaneous adipose tissue obtained at slaughter from heifers receiving immunization or the combination of immunization and trenbolone acetate. The increased lipogenic capacity was not reflected in either cell diameter or cells per gram adipose tissue. Ovariectomy in combination with trenbolone acetate caused the lowest activities for all enzymes measured. This treatments also caused the greatest decrease in cell diameter, which resulted in the largest number of cells per gram of adipose tissue. Trenbolone acetate alone had no detectable effect on lipogenesis in the intact heifer, but the combination of ovariectomy and trenbolone acetate caused substantial decreases in enzyme activities, in most cases a significant decrease as compared with ovariectomized heifers. The data suggest that trenbolone acetate is able to depress lipogenesis only when not competing with the effects of circulating estradiol.

[Mulciber]

there are no human studies of tren..must point say there are distinct differences between the bovine and human reaction to this combintian (usually in cows they use minimal tren and a lot of estradiol)

Most of what is said about tren is pure conjecture. fact is no one what causes the fat loss, if anything at all (i can't comment, I don't recommend the use of any steroid without testosterone). To say it is caused by IGF is a rather odd leap of faith, first of all since there is no quantitive data on human IGF release between test and tren, but from all anectdotal report test seems equipotent or stronger than tren in that regard. Second reason is that IGF has rather dual effect on fat. On the one hand it lowers insulin, if systemic, but systemic IGF wouldn't really affect muscle much, but it also acts like insulin, especially systemic and has proliferative and differentiating effect on adipose cells (although less than insulin on account of lower receptor density).

[castiron]

Well there is something to say for the additional muscle built by AAS burning fat....

[Fire Man]

Yeah alot off ppl say tren makes them so cut, but doest tren make you tired easily and hard to do cardio. Prob test,tren,eq is the best cutter eq will give you the endurance to run, test will give you test, and tren everything eles.

[Amorphic]

Yeah alot off ppl say tren makes them so cut, but doest tren make you tired easily and hard to do cardio. Prob test,tren,eq is the best cutter eq will give you the endurance to run, test will give you test, and tren everything eles.

the cardio effects of tren vary from user to user. i would feel breathless on it but i could still do cardio.

a lot of you seem to be missing the point of this thread. its your diet and cardio that cut you up and make you lose fat, not just the compounds you're using. no injectable or oral is solely going to make you lose bodyfat.

[Reed]

the cardio effects of tren vary from user to user. i would feel breathless on it but i could still do cardio.

a lot of you seem to be missing the point of this thread. its your diet and cardio that cut you up and make you lose fat, not just the compounds you're using. no injectable or oral is solely going to make you lose bodyfat.

yep like the kids that want to be at a certain weight and look believe all they gotta do is to inject the hormones on in thinking its magic

[WARMachine]

Tren is BS ,go for primobolan imo. 1000 MG each week and you should be fine. Even at a calori deficit u can build some mass and loose your fat belly.

Truely horrible advice....

1G of Primo... LMAO!

[G-1000]

Go do more research u nab before u comment!

Man you are just starting to piss me off.

If you do not change your attitude you time here is short lived.

Say one word and your fvcking gone.

[goose]

Man you are just starting to piss me off.

If you do not change your attitude you time here is short lived.

Say one word and your fvcking gone.

[WARMachine]

^^^ Isnt that what the news says??


Its gonna kill me in 10 years though huh?

[Reed]

^^^ Isnt that what the news says??


Its gonna kill me in 10 years though huh?

Yep the news says alot of crazy things if you haven't noticed. I just don't get it though with the food and everything for people. Is it just not so basic for the REQUIREMENT of eating this amount of calories/protein/carbs/fat in order to maintain this amount of weight, muscle and bf%. I swear sometimes I think we need to sticky stuff out of these books and DVDs




Bet that would take care of 95% of the lightweights that come through here and want to weigh X amount

[Mulciber]

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[WARMachine]

^^^ There is actually a magic pill!!!

Damn you roid store! I want my money back!!!

[WARMachine]

^^^

LMFAO!!! The really funny thing is, thats actually true...