Oral Only

[saint01]

First, I am 29 and travel about 90% of the time on business (consultant), thus the need to just run an Oral for now. I'm 5'11", 225 and about 15% bf. Been lifting for 15 years, but it has been 8 since I ran my last cycle. Decided to go all natural and now am back looking for a little help.

Basically, I am looking to harden up and lean out further (I have a clean diet, which I would be more than happy to post), and have been researching my options with regards to Orals.

I am down to Anavar, Winny and Tbol. Obviously since anavar is in there, price isn't my main concern. I have three different cycles all written out (for the above), running PCT with each (even though there is some debate on whether you need to with Anavar).

? - I guess I am just looking for some constructive thoughts on the three and which one you would personally choose if you were me. I can post more data if need be. Thanks to anyone for thoughts.

[lord henry]

anavar or tbol would be your best bet for an oral only cycle.

[saint01]

thanks bro...I have been leaning to one of those two...winny just seems too rough on the liver

[Big]

the title of this thread reminded me of a girl I used to date. in any event, var or tbol would be decent, although not magnificent.

[TRYER]

i ran anavar for 4 weeks and in my opinion i found it exellent for strength and focus too.
i would recommend anavar bro

[Deltasaurus]

id go strict diet and cardio as often as possible with good rest and training routine + Var you should obtain the results you have been wanting fairly quickly

[TRYER]

id go strict diet and cardio as often as possible with good rest and training routine + Var you should obtain the results you have been wanting fairly quickly

i ran 40mg ed of anavar is this a high enough dose or would you recommend a higher dosage?

[Big]

i ran 40mg ed of anavar is this a high enough dose or would you recommend a higher dosage?

click the blue word in your post and read that for starters.

[Paul_Best]

just curious what your pct would look like for a anavar only cycle? And I think since you travel so often oarls would be the way to go wouldnt mind trying something like that myself to lean out.

[saint01]

Anyone else? Anavar seems to be the consensus.

[saint01]

bump...just want to see what everyone else thinks, if they have an opinion. thanks again to those that have responded.

Oh, and I will keep everyone posted on the results.

[vengence00]

can someone layout a definitive cycle using tbol and anavar with pct. daily doses length of of time to be on each sustance. i want the fat burning benefits of var and the permanent gains from tbol.

[C-MaN]

Start your own thread Vengence instead of jackings saints thread!

[Big]

can someone layout a definitive cycle using tbol and anavar with pct. daily doses length of of time to be on each sustance. i want the fat burning benefits of var and the permanent gains from tbol.

[saint01]

Ok guys...before my thread gets totally hijacked...

If I run VAR, what do you think my 8-10 week cycle should look like? I was thinking 50mg daily?

[Paul_Best]

var is pretty expensive after looking into it. i have aslo read that any where for 50-100mg is ok and that pct is not necessary.

[saint01]

yeah, I think that I will stick to tbol. I can keep you up to date on my results if you want....

[Big]

yes, please keep us posted.

[saint01]

Update

So I decided to go with a Tbol only cycle, although I received a lot of criticism from many people about this. I didnt' want to put on 20-40 lbs, but a solid 10 that I could hold onto was my goal. I’m not real into keeping detailed logs, given that part of my job is PMO stuff, but I thought I would share some basics.

(1) Tomorrow will be the beginning of my 3rd week.
(2) I have gained around 5 lbs and there appears to be no sign of bloat.
(3) I’ve lost 2.1% BF according to the calipers
(4) I’ve lost 1 inch on my waistline.
(5) Arms have added ½ an inch
(6) As with all my prior cycles years ago, the most noticeable gains are in my legs and traps
(7) Acne has been slightly increased, but by slightly I mean that I have maybe gotten a total of 6 zits over the 3 weeks…not noticeable at all
(8) Being prone to Gyno genetically, this was a great concern and one reason I chose tbol. Thus far, have signs of gyno.
(9) Sex drive is way up
(10) Strength is not as high up as I would have thought. Example: One arm dumbbell curls are up from 55lbs (x7) to 65 (x6 or 7).

One thing that has really shocked me is that I seem to be in an overall much better mood. I almost have this sense of euphoria, which I had read some others experiencing, but had my doubts.

I’ll keep you posted as I continue along

[bowser]

i always feel good when im on. nothing better than walking around hard and pumped all day like you just got out the gym when you haven't even been yet for the day.