first cycle advice

[38lex]

this is my first cycle

a little bit about me..

im 22 yrs old ive been training for almost 3 yrs..im 5'11 currently 235lb with no more then 14-15%bf....my diet is in check im eating 7 meals a day every 2 n half hrs/ 7 days a week...im on a 1837cal a day diet..wit 1348 cal coming from protein, 228cal from carbs and 261 cal from fats....my preoteing intake is 337g..fat intake is 29g and carbs are at 57g a day...

my cycle will be bdol 20mg everyday....primabol 100mg a week..and test (sustnon 250) 100mg a week...shots once a week (tuesday and sunday)...in planning on doing a 8 week cycle..and the gear is 100% official...idk if i should mention brand names or undergorund labs....

i already took my first shot this passed tuesday in my right arm and i feel a minor pain but i was told wen u do test it hurts a lil ...its like a sore feeling..

the dbols ive been taking for 5 days already wit my first meal and third meal...i workout in the morning after my first meal...

the reason im doing onl 100mg a week is beacuse its my first cycle and im not looking for nething crazy jus a lil push to give my pysique a fuller harder look...now my question is does this sound like i pretty much have everything covored? and should i continue doing wat is listed above?

also should i have somthing for a pct? and wat? im also taking a testosteron booster that ive been taking before my cycle as a supplement..

Tnx in advance!! any info/advice and opinions welcome and appriciated...

[Mammon]

should you have something for pct? well yes
1800 cals a day... hummm, needs some tweaking
should have just went with test at a higher dose and not ran the other stuff.
more research befors starting would have helped too

[MMArmour]

Well bro...youre going to catch alot of shit i anticipate but u might get lucky. 100mg/wk of sust? Its a waste. Period. I hate when people come on here saying they wanted to "test the waters" or didnt want "anything durastic". Steroids are for durastic changes bro. Period. Youre running a trt/cruising dose. I doubt youll see shit from this cycle except water retention from the dbol. Primo is a cutting drug (one with a really poor rep) compared to similar agents like masteron and dbol is a bulking agent. So what the hell are you doing?

And YES. YOU NEED A PCT. It looks like you did just enough reading to find out alittle bit about AAS and didnt consider the big picture at all. At least you have time to get all your pct meds in place.

[38lex]

the cycle diet and training was recommanded by my coach ive been training wit for past few months ...he's a former mr. nj and all the guys he works wit are huge and few of them r doing nationals this year...so to me it looks like he knows wat hes talking about and doing...not sayin that if he says jump imma gonna do it or sayin u guys r wrong or i kno wat im doing...this is why i wanted to get few diff opinions and maybe facts on wat im doing... the reason my calories are low is cuz im getting ready for a show 17 weks from now...and dont get me wrong i want results who doesnt but im relying more on my diet and hard work then the gear like i said its my first cycle i rather do low dose's to see how my body handles the gear then to jump rite into a high dose...i rather get some opinions from u guys wether im gonna like or not then to believe n think everyhting is in check

[MMArmour]

Ive explained it to new guys in the past in this manner;

You feel as though you are testing the waters with this run. 500mg/wk of test e or c IS testing the waters. 100mg/wk is more closely related to sloshing around in a puddle.

ALL your doses are way low. and this is your first cycle... It should consist of a single ester testosterone. What is your pct?

[38lex]

do to the low dose i was told there would b no need for a pct....and to bring my test levels down to normal just to continue to take my test booster im taking now....but im not trying to take any chances...i was thinking nolva/clomid for 4 weeks at 40mg/day first two weeks then drop it down to 20mg/day???

[38lex]

with the stack i have...wat dose would u suggest? mmarmour

[redz]

Low dose makes no difference you will still be shut down. PCT is always necessary with gear and your cycle is garbage dont waste your time or money on it. You need mroe gear. 500mg/week of Test E is a good starting cycle.

[MMArmour]

thats exactly how i would do

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50

There are many pct protocols however.

Its not a matter of bringing your test levels back down. AAS will cause your body to shut down natural production of testosterone in lue of the excess amount of being administered IM. So as your test (from AAS) fall off, they are met by a body that has NO natural test present. Do you see where this is going? Complete testosterone deficit. The nolva/clomid are anti estrogen meds. More accurately they are SERM's. They fight off estrogen while your body begins production of endogenous test.

You are running very lose doses but even if you were just doing the dbol alone (not recommended) youd still have to PCT.

[Mammon]

pct id use 100mg clomid ed for a week or 2 then drop it to 50mg .. id run it 4 weeks along with 20mg nolvadex ed

[MMArmour]

Youre new bro. Id recommend a run that looks like this

1-12wk Test e (or c) @ 500mg/wk

14-20wk PCT
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

If i had your stuff....and had to use your stuff id be running something like this

1-12 Test E @ 500mg/wk
1-12 Primo @ 600mg/wk
1-5 Dbol @ 50mg/ed

But I wouldnt use primo, and definetly not with dbol. Counter-productive properties.

[jimmyinkedup]

use the primobol to oil your bike chain cause 100mgs /week is an absolute waste as is using it for 8 weeks. Also the test booster is as useful as grass clippings ...esp when on cycle. You def need pct no doubt. and id run test only : test e or c at at least 400mg/week preferably 500. If u feel u have to use the dball use it only for the first 4-5 weeks at 30mg/day. id also consider a 10 -12 week cycle.....

[38lex]

ok very clear to me now...thanks guys....i will continue to use wat i have since i have it already but i will increase the dose's and follow the 6 weeks pct.. ill post few weeks from now to share results if any (hopefully) again tnx for the advice

[MMArmour]

Wish youd have come to this site before you ran the compounds bro. Coulda got set up really sweet. But...good luck bro! And let us know how it goes.

[lovex]

ok very clear to me now...thanks guys....i will continue to use wat i have since i have it already but i will increase the dose's and follow the 6 weeks pct.. ill post few weeks from now to share results if any (hopefully) again tnx for the advice

test will kick in your body from 5th week onwards...and if your cycle is for 8weeks and then u see NO GAINS just water generation...u have to go 10~12 weeks