cardio during bulking cycle

[Big Oz]

ok im gonna take the following

test E or C 600mg 1-12
deca 450mg 1-10
dbol 30mg ed 1-4

my diet macros are as follows

approximately 420 grams protein, 300grams Carbs, and 83 grams of fat. This is roughly 4000 calories

i am 5'10 185lbs and a natural ectomorph. i never did cardio in any past cycles, because i had the old school bulking mentality, and was obsessed with gaining weight since i was always a skinny kid. well that mentality has changed, and ive been doing about 30 minutes of cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach for the last 3 days. i just wanna know how much cardio is too much or if i should do any at all during my bulking cycle given that i am a natural ectomorph. my bf should be about 20% now. when i was younger it was naturally around 8 - 10%. any advice would be appreciated!

[Big Oz]

by the way i want to clean bulk. ultimate goal is 200 lbs at 8-10%bf. i know i wont get this off one cycle....

[redz]

I doubt you are 20% bf unless you have a huge gut (assuming thats you in the avatar) I wouldnt do too much cardio during bulking cycles. I do 6+hours weekly of cardio when cutting but thats a different story.

[Mammon]

i do cardio regardless.. i just adjust diet accordingly.. cardiovascular health is a good thing..

[redz]

True but I would say 30 mins 5 times a week is what I do while bulking vs 1 hour / day split into 2 sessions whiloe cutting. Also I onyl do the empty stomache morning cardio when cutting.

[Mammon]

i hear ya... just letting the cat know not to drop the cardio completely..

[Chance_Baby]

you also have to consider that juice stresses the heart...so if you haven't done much cardio before your going to be stressing it alot....

[Big Oz]

ya that is my avatar.. im guesstimating...the 20% i must be around 15%

[redz]

15% is likely a much closer estimate.

[Big Oz]

i have a little fat on my stomach

[Big Oz]

so 30 minutes 5 times a week on an empty stomach? or less times a week? should i go for a certain % of my mhr or do i just walk or jog for 30 minutes?

[redz]

I`m not a fan of the empty stomach cardio while trying to bulk but definitely 5 times a week 30 mins is fine while bulking.

[Big Oz]

just walking or go for a specific hr%

[redz]

Medium itensity cardio while bulking nothing too crazy.

[Big Oz]

my bad... ive just NEVER done cardio

[Big Oz]

ok gotcha.. im just gonna "power" walk on the tread mill for 30 minutes mon-fri