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    first cycle, advice please

    Okay, so i was looking around and found a thread that gives an example of a beginners cycle, however i younger than most people would approve of to start a cycle, but I do beleiv ei am very genetically gifted. I am 18 years old, 5'11 and weigh about 188 now. around freshman year i was 220 pounds, although i never worked out i was still pretty fit, but alot of my weight was fat, i wont lie. Even though it was fat i wasnt one of those round in the stomach and face with enormous calfs fat boys, i was thick and strong fat boy. But to be honest i wouldnt really say fat, i would just say over weight and could cut down a bit. Anyway...... since then i have been working on my diet and training consistantly. I went from 220 to 175, but lost a but of muscle because i joined the track team. I then worked on my diet more and built up to around 205, but could see my top two abs and was pretty lean, now i am slowly cutting weight for the summer so i am around 188 but can see a pretty decent 6 pack. But enough about this, to the cycle that i saw posted it read liek this:

    --- 1-12 test e 500mg/week
    1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

    take your test injections 3.5 days apart, like monday morning and thursday evening ---

    I was wondering, if i take just the test at a lower dose, like maybe 300mg/week would this be pointless? My goals are about 10 lbs of solid muslce, i know how to eat so that is not a problem, but i also wanted to know if this was a bad idea. I dont want any harsh sides, and i know the higher the dose the larger the sides, and i am also young so i dont want to ruin my own production. Say i did lower the dose, or even took the full dose.. what could i expect, from both options, in both size and side affects.

    Please, if your just going to critisize me dont bother, i only want advice from people who after actual experiance with these drugs and know alot about them.

    Thanks

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    Way too young man your natural test levels are still very high. Get some more years behind you first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnybigguns View Post
    Way too young man your natural test levels are still very high. Get some more years behind you first.
    Agreed too young!

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    Quote Originally Posted by theblueoak View Post
    Okay, so i was looking around and found a thread that gives an example of a beginners cycle, however i younger than most people would approve of to start a cycle, but I do beleiv ei am very genetically gifted. I am 18 years old, 5'11 and weigh about 188 now. around freshman year i was 220 pounds, although i never worked out i was still pretty fit, but alot of my weight was fat, i wont lie. Even though it was fat i wasnt one of those round in the stomach and face with enormous calfs fat boys, i was thick and strong fat boy. But to be honest i wouldnt really say fat, i would just say over weight and could cut down a bit. Anyway...... since then i have been working on my diet and training consistantly. I went from 220 to 175, but lost a but of muscle because i joined the track team. I then worked on my diet more and built up to around 205, but could see my top two abs and was pretty lean, now i am slowly cutting weight for the summer so i am around 188 but can see a pretty decent 6 pack. But enough about this, to the cycle that i saw posted it read liek this:

    --- 1-12 test e 500mg/week
    1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

    take your test injections 3.5 days apart, like monday morning and thursday evening ---

    I was wondering, if i take just the test at a lower dose, like maybe 300mg/week would this be pointless? My goals are about 10 lbs of solid muslce, i know how to eat so that is not a problem, but i also wanted to know if this was a bad idea. I dont want any harsh sides, and i know the higher the dose the larger the sides, and i am also young so i dont want to ruin my own production. Say i did lower the dose, or even took the full dose.. what could i expect, from both options, in both size and side affects.

    Please, if your just going to critisize me dont bother, i only want advice from people who after actual experiance with these drugs and know alot about them.

    Thanks
    Bro do you know the definition of genetically gifted?

    If you can only see your two top abs that is far from "pretty lean", if you were fat as a kid that is not "genetically" gifted.

    The kids I knew as during high school who were genetically gifted rarely lifted weights and maintained a fairly muscular frame for their age.

    You're too young for steroids, you risk permanently lowering your test levels and possible side effects such as psychological problems, infertility, erectile dysfunction, etc. from the use of AAS on a developing pituitary gland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
    Bro do you know the definition of genetically gifted?

    If you can only see your two top abs that is far from "pretty lean", if you were fat as a kid that is not "genetically" gifted.

    The kids I knew as during high school who were genetically gifted rarely lifted weights and maintained a fairly muscular frame for their age.
    k to go from 220 to 175 back to over 200 and ot be able to see abs form never having abs in my life in such a short time to be is an accomplishment... and i wasnt really fat i was just thick, any way i asked about the drugs not your opinion on my appearance.

    for the rest of you thanks for the info, i wont use the drugs till i was older, i just wanted peoples opinions and i got them.

    thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by theblueoak View Post
    k to go from 220 to 175 back to over 200 and ot be able to see abs form never having abs in my life in such a short time to be is an accomplishment... and i wasnt really fat i was just thick, any way i asked about the drugs not your opinion on my appearance.

    for the rest of you thanks for the info, i wont use the drugs till i was older, i just wanted peoples opinions and i got them.

    thanks guys
    I went from 134lbs to 174lbs in 5 months when I was your age just by eating food, I guess I must be genetically gifted. No, its called hardwork. If you work at something you will get it, genetically gifted means its easier for you because your genes are conducive for muscle growth.

    Nobody said its not a good accomplishment, it just doesn't mean your genetically gifted.

    And when I say "fat" I don't mean obese, I mean you had a high bf% with muscle mass underneath theres a difference between fat when used in bodybuilding and fat when used in society.


    Anyway, I am glad you decided to stay away from steroids at your age it wouldn't do nothing but harm in the long term.

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    We DO know alot about these drugs , and it IS from our experience that we tell you , there is NO way you should be using them YET....

    So, do you want legitimate advice or do you just want someone to tell you is ok to screw up your body???

    your choice

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    stay on the research. No one in here is crazy enough to green light this. No one is trying to be an asshole or keep you from getting big, we are all just trying to be responsible and give you sound advice.

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    nice to hear that!

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