What would you recommend as a first cycle for a 22 year old?

**steelydanman** · 03-26-2009, 10:31 PM

I am 190 lbs/ 22 years old. I was wanting to get some opinions on a first cycle. What would give me some decent gains with relatively low side effects? I have considered taking PH's such as h-drol but Im not sure if there is anything else out there..

Thanks everyone

***T-MOS*** · 03-26-2009, 10:32 PM

Welcome to AR

you are still a bit young

how tall are you
what is your bodyfat %
years training
goals
diet

You are NOT allowed to ask where to buy ILLEGAL substances on this website....please edit your post, and if contacted by anyone offering a source, they will be SCAMMING you as no one legit would do it this way

**steelydanman** · 03-26-2009, 10:33 PM

6'0 about 10% bodyfat

**steelydanman** · 03-26-2009, 10:34 PM

been training for 5 years

**rnb83** · 03-27-2009, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

Welcome to AR

you are still a bit young

how tall are you
what is your bodyfat %
years training
goals
diet

You are NOT allowed to ask where to buy ILLEGAL substances on this website....please edit your post, and if contacted by anyone offering a source, they will be SCAMMING you as no one legit would do it this way

hi I have bn reading your reply to steelydanman, I also am thinking of starting a cycle, I am 26 years of age, have been training on and of for 6 years, about a year solid now, I am 5 9" and weigh around 140 pounds I have tried all other avenues, protein shakes etc with no success, I have a good diet plenty of high protein foods but still no gains, I would really appreciate your advice as I do not no what to do, I am just lookin for some toughts

***T-MOS*** · 03-27-2009, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by rnb83

hi I have bn reading your reply to steelydanman, I also am thinking of starting a cycle, I am 26 years of age, have been training on and of for 6 years, about a year solid now, I am 5 9" and weigh around 140 pounds I have tried all other avenues, protein shakes etc with no success, I have a good diet plenty of high protein foods but still no gains, I would really appreciate your advice as I do not no what to do, I am just lookin for some toughts

Welcome to AR

Please start your very own thread to ask these questions and I will be happy to help you.

This is called hijacking someone else's thread.

You will get better replies if you start your own so we can just answer your questions

when you start your thread please include all your stats and layout your diet for me to go over, at 5'9" and ONLY 140, I will bet money your diet isn't set up for GROWTH !!!

**Mammon** · 03-26-2009, 10:32 PM

cant tell you where to go for gear..

***T-MOS*** · 03-26-2009, 10:34 PM

There are RULES here, PLEASE READ THEM BEFORE POSTING

**steelydanman** · 03-26-2009, 10:35 PM

my main goal is to gain lean muscle mass possibly lose a little body fat but not really my main concern

**steelydanman** · 03-26-2009, 10:35 PM

sorry i will edit my post

***T-MOS*** · 03-26-2009, 10:36 PM

There is a LOT more you need to know than just WHAT kind of steroid to take

you need to have a consistent diet,
You need to kwow what to have on hand during your cycle in case of bad side effects
you need to know , understand, and have PCT knowledge for after the cycle

you are about to change the chemistry of your body and shut off hormone production.
this isn't something you want to take lightly

**steelydanman** · 03-26-2009, 10:40 PM

I completely agree. I will definately not jump into anything. I am just getting ideas. I would not ever ever take anything without having the proper pct in hand before cycle. I have a very solid diet down. I am currently bulking trying to naturally get up to 200 lbs. Just wondering what a good beginner cycle would generally be. Any thoughts on fina?

***T-MOS*** · 03-26-2009, 10:43 PM

First cycles are BEST kept to ONE compound.

A single LONG ester Testosterone is BEST

look into
Test Enanthate
Test Cypionate
Clomid
Nolvadex
Arimidex
Letro
HCG

thats a good place to start

FINA is NOT for the beginner, maybe after 5 or so cycles. it is one of the HARSHEST steroids out there....NOT for the beginner

**Mammon** · 03-26-2009, 10:43 PM

test only.. forget tren for now

**steelydanman** · 03-26-2009, 10:49 PM

just curious, but what would a step up from running straight test be? I have taken PH's that basically would have a similar effect..

***T-MOS*** · 03-26-2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by steelydanman

just curious, but what would a step up from running straight test be? I have taken PH's that basically would have a similar effect..

NOTHING.....

Did you run a PCT with your PH's? I am guessing NO

**Mammon** · 03-26-2009, 10:52 PM

wouldnt compare the two..

**breakbones** · 03-26-2009, 10:52 PM

To young!
Grow older, wiser! and natural!

**rksdmf** · 03-26-2009, 10:57 PM

You got about another 3 years before you should even think about getting gear, and at your age and very little knowledge you are perfect for someone looking to SCAM......

**steelydanman** · 03-26-2009, 11:02 PM

I appreciate the concern, I will not get caught up in a scam.

You don't think that PH's compare to test?
I have looked into these.. would any be worth while?

promoviron
dbol
anavar
winny

**steelydanman** · 03-26-2009, 11:03 PM

Yes i absolutely ran a pct along with cycle support and pct support with both of the Ph's i took

***T-MOS*** · 03-26-2009, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by steelydanman

I appreciate the concern, I will not get caught up in a scam.

You don't think that PH's compare to test?
I have looked into these.. would any be worth while?

promoviron
dbol
anavar
winny

no no maybe and NO

you can NOT do this half assed, and thinking you can make and keep gains from and ORAL ONLY cylce is very half assed

if you are afraid to learn to inject, then you need to wait a few years

those four listed have their place in this, BUT not by themselves

**steelydanman** · 03-26-2009, 11:07 PM

I am not afraid to inject.. So what is your recommendation?

Just straight test along with proper pct and cycle support?

***T-MOS*** · 03-26-2009, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by steelydanman

I am not afraid to inject.. So what is your recommendation?

Just straight test along with proper pct and cycle support?

Perfect !!

along with DIET, Training, REST

and you are good to go !!!

500mgs/week for 10-12 weeks taken in two 250mgs shots one every 3.5 days

**steelydanman** · 03-26-2009, 11:11 PM

I am not against injecting whatsoever, I understand there would be less bioavailability with an oral but would it be better to go that route as a first cycle?

**Mammon** · 03-26-2009, 11:13 PM

if you wanted to run an oral cycle only ones id consider would be tbol or var..
test would be the way to go

**Mammon** · 03-26-2009, 11:27 PM

tbol is similar to dbol without the bloat

**steelydanman** · 03-27-2009, 12:44 AM

not trying to fish or anything but seeing that buysteroids.com is a sponsor for this website are they reputable and do they sell any from of test if not i have another source but just curious?

**rksdmf** · 03-27-2009, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by steelydanman

not trying to fish or anything but seeing that buysteroids.com is a sponsor for this website are they reputable and do they sell any from of test if not i have another source but just curious?

haha and u said you wont get scammed?

**Mammon** · 03-27-2009, 12:50 AM

its just supplements with similar names to bait in newbs to spend their money..not the real deal.
dont waste your money.

**WARMachine** · 03-27-2009, 01:37 AM

That is pretty ironic.

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