4th cycle look ok?

[te4vass]

first cycle was test-e 12 weeks 2x week 500 week

second cycle was test-e 13 weeks (had a little extra) 2xweek 500 week
plus npp eod 10 weeks

3rd cycle (worst cycle) was prop ed 75 and tren a .55 ed.
This cycle did very little for me. I leaned out on it but never saw the strength gains or results I was expecting. I guess tren does not like me.

My next cycle will be the same as my second one. I had tremendous gains on that one. But going to add dbol. (i think)

So here are my options-
1-16 test-e 500 week
1-4 dbol 30mg day
4-16 npp suggestions on dose e2d

or just go

1-14 test e 500 week
2-14 npp suggestions dose e2d

I know I should be taking prop with the npp but I had some problems with the prop last cycle and the test e was no problems great gains. which one should I go with? will I see better results adding the dbol or should I just start the npp asap? thanks for the feedback.

ah yah stats are
6' 200lbs 12%bf 31 years old

[CHUCKYthentic]

id go the test dbol npp

so you re gonna shoot every other day?
what you have lined up for pct?
any caber or bromo?

[CHUCKYthentic]

what dose of npp did you run in that 2nd cycle?

[Anabolios]

Just curious what are your reasons for running NPP instead of deca? I believe the dosing would be the same as regular nandrolone. 400 mg weekly along 500mg of TEST-E. I think the deca would be better, rather than its short estered counterpart just because of ease of injections. I'd drop the dbol and run the nandrolone from the jump with the test E.

[CHUCKYthentic]

Just curious what are your reasons for running NPP instead of deca? I believe the dosing would be the same as regular nandrolone. 400 mg weekly along 500mg of TEST-E. I think the deca would be better, rather than its short estered counterpart just because of ease of injections. I'd drop the dbol and run the nandrolone from the jump with the test E.

thats actually a good idea too

[mx3]

first cycle was test-e 12 weeks 2x week 500 week

second cycle was test-e 13 weeks (had a little extra) 2xweek 500 week
plus npp eod 10 weeks

3rd cycle (worst cycle) was prop ed 75 and tren a .55 ed.
This cycle did very little for me. I leaned out on it but never saw the strength gains or results I was expecting. I guess tren does not like me.

My next cycle will be the same as my second one. I had tremendous gains on that one. But going to add dbol. (i think)

So here are my options-
1-16 test-e 500 week
1-4 dbol 30mg day
4-16 npp suggestions on dose e2d

or just go

1-14 test e 500 week
2-14 npp suggestions dose e2d

I know I should be taking prop with the npp but I had some problems with the prop last cycle and the test e was no problems great gains. which one should I go with? will I see better results adding the dbol or should I just start the npp asap? thanks for the feedback.

ah yah stats are
6' 200lbs 12%bf 31 years old

I would run it like this
test e 1-14 500mg/wk
npp 1-12 75-100mg ed
dbol 1-4 50mg ed

[te4vass]

id go the test dbol npp

so you re gonna shoot every other day?
what you have lined up for pct?
any caber or bromo?

hcg, nolva, clomid

hcg week 4-16 500iu week.
I haven't tried deca but I heard npp offers less bloat plus ill feel it weeks sooner then deca!
so running npp from week one will be ok? drop the dbol and run
1-16 teste 500 week
1-15 npp 400 week
I really wanted to try dbol this cycle though. what are the reasons for dropping it? just out of curiosity.

[te4vass]

I would run it like this
test e 1-14 500mg/wk
npp 1-12 75-100mg ed
dbol 1-4 50mg ed

I like this cycle! but will it be ok running the npp and dbol together the first couple weeks with test e? I have never tried dbol. very excited to try it.

[CHUCKYthentic]

keep the npp in the 400-500mg/week range
imo, 700mg/week is too high

running npp, or any 19nor AAS for 15 weeks seems a little much i wouldnt do it

[DFDub]

test e 1-14 500mg/wk
npp 1-12 75-100mg ed
dbol 1-4 50mg ed

I was going to start something similar on Monday...just a little shorter

WK 1-8 Test-P 75mg/ED
WK 1-6 NPP 50mg/ED
WK 1-4 Dbol 40mg/ED

I have a bunch of masteron but will be saving that for my next cycle.

[Gaspari1255]

6' and 200lbs after three cycles...I don't think the diet is up to par.

[te4vass]

keep the npp in the 400-500mg/week range
imo, 700mg/week is too high

running npp, or any 19nor AAS for 15 weeks seems a little much i wouldnt do it

I agree with u on that. that's one reason I was debating on doing
1-16 test e 500 week
4-16 npp 400-500 week
1-4 dbol 30mg day
4-16 hcg 500iu week 2x 250 iu
the npp will only be ran 12 weeks that way!

[CHUCKYthentic]

any adex and/or caber u plan on running during cycle?

[te4vass]

6' and 200lbs after three cycles...I don't think the diet is up to par.

my diet is good. I lost some weight from that tren cycle. it really leaned me out. couldn't eat couldn't sleep saw no gains. ill post my diet though. critique it for me.

7 am 2 scoops xxx mass whey protein shake.
8 am oatmeal with wheat toast and 2 eggs
10 am turkey sandwich with salad
12pm 2 chicken breasts veggie and potatoe
2pm 2 cans of tuna and sum fruit
4pm small meal something like turkey or chicken or salmon
6 pm small meal again take my creatine and no xplode
7pm gym
830pm whey shake
9pm fish, chicken, or turkey with veggie
10pm if hungry celery and peanut butter and milk.

how does this look?
of course I am taking vitamins, milk thistle, and supplements also.

[te4vass]

any adex and/or caber u plan on running during cycle?

no. I will have adex on hand but never had the need for It. but better to safe then sorry.

[CHUCKYthentic]

well if you re not gyno prone then u may not need it, some do some dont

id have some caber on hand too just in case

[te4vass]

well if you re not gyno prone then u may not need it, some do some dont

id have some caber on hand too just in case

yah I am one of the lucky ones who doesn't suffer from gyno.
so do u think the last cycle I posted looks good?
npp for 12 weeks instead of 16!

[CHUCKYthentic]

ya you should be good, if it ends up too long you can always about with no problems

like i said though, id consider having some caber on hand

[te4vass]

ya you should be good, if it ends up too long you can always about with no problems

like i said though, id consider having some caber on hand

ok thanks. ill pick some up. I don't start this cycle till may 1st.

[mx3]

I like this cycle! but will it be ok running the npp and dbol together the first couple weeks with test e? I have never tried dbol. very excited to try it.

There is no reason you shouldn't run the dbol i dont know why people are telling you dont need it it works great along side npp. What was your previous dosage of npp, how much you should run now will depend on how much you have ran previously.

[Anabolios]

hcg, nolva, clomid

hcg week 4-16 500iu week.
I haven't tried deca but I heard npp offers less bloat plus ill feel it weeks sooner then deca!
so running npp from week one will be ok? drop the dbol and run
1-16 teste 500 week
1-15 npp 400 week
I really wanted to try dbol this cycle though. what are the reasons for dropping it? just out of curiosity.

Because of a shorter ester you probably will feel it sooner than deca. NPP is deca with a shorter ester attached to it, giving it a shorter half life and faster acting capabilities. The reason I say run regular deca is because youd avoid doing multiple shots and you could inject twice weekly, 200mg deca/250mg test e every 3.5 days. Dbol would be fine for a kickstart. If youre set on running NPP there is no reason you cant run dbol as well for a kickstart. Either way you decide to go I think that it's a very fitting 4th cycle. No crazy dosages, but a good combination of compounds that should produce a great synergistic effect.

[mx3]

keep the npp in the 400-500mg/week range
imo, 700mg/week is too high

running npp, or any 19nor AAS for 15 weeks seems a little much i wouldnt do it

That would all depend on what his previous doses of npp were. probably for him 75mg ed would be ideal but if he ran that much last time or more even than thats why I threw in the 100mged, he should know how to gauge his doses from previous experience. really anything over 600 is a waste but its much easier to just inject 1cc thats dosed at 100mg/ml than measure out all the little lines every time so you get 600mg.

[Anabolios]

That would all depend on what his previous doses of npp were. probably for him 75mg ed would be ideal but if he ran that much last time or more even than thats why I threw in the 100mged, he should know how to gauge his doses from previous experience. really anything over 600 is a waste but its much easier to just inject 1cc thats dosed at 100mg/ml than measure out all the little lines every time so you get 600mg.

No offense at all and don't take this the wrong way...but if youre saying that anything over 600mg is a waste, don't you think it'd be more beneficial to take the few extra seconds and measure the lines? Also, I don't think the npp should be run higher than the test. Back to the point I keep making of deca-durabolin instead of npp, easier to dose, similar effects, and youre still getting an effective 19nor. Just my 2 cents More like 2 bucks lol sry

[Gaspari1255]

my diet is good. I lost some weight from that tren cycle. it really leaned me out. couldn't eat couldn't sleep saw no gains. ill post my diet though. critique it for me.

7 am 2 scoops xxx mass whey protein shake.
8 am oatmeal with wheat toast and 2 eggs
10 am turkey sandwich with salad
12pm 2 chicken breasts veggie and potatoe
2pm 2 cans of tuna and sum fruit
4pm small meal something like turkey or chicken or salmon
6 pm small meal again take my creatine and no xplode
7pm gym
830pm whey shake
9pm fish, chicken, or turkey with veggie
10pm if hungry celery and peanut butter and milk.

how does this look?
of course I am taking vitamins, milk thistle, and supplements also.

Copy and paste that into the diet section, you'll get much more help.

[te4vass]

There is no reason you shouldn't run the dbol i dont know why people are telling you dont need it it works great along side npp. What was your previous dosage of npp, how much you should run now will depend on how much you have ran previously.

I ran 75mg eod last time with great results. I could go 100mg eod this time and it will still be under the test dosage, which I want to do! I have heard deca-test-dbol was an awesome cycle, so im jazzed! thanks for the suggestions and advice guys!