Extending a cycle to 25 weeks? Questions

[Knockout_Power]

hey guys, got a question and its actual for my buddy, not me asking cause Im too chicken shit to admit its for me =)

Anyways, Im about to start my Test E/Deca cycle and my buddy who is just about to finish his 13 week Test Cyp only cycle (600/wk) and now he is thinking of extending another 12 weeks to do the following:

No PCT after first 13 weeks, no bridge, straight into...

1-12 Test E @ 250/wk
1-10 Deca @ 600/wk

and then a more agressive PCT which will include HCG starting day after last shot of Deca and then up until PCT and Clomid/Nolva @ 100/40 first week, then 50/20 for week 2-5.

Bromo and Letro on hand

He has all these items on hand now, is this ok? He has never done Deca before and he thinks that the Deca should still produce gains.

Good idea, bad idea?

[Necrosaro]

Being too long on the cycle. Personally I wouldn't do it due to the fact that your body has to rest and to adjust to your new muscle growth. Also this will have more effects such as gyno issues and a very harsh shut down of your test production.

[bma33]

Think 25 weeks is way to long... check with the vets but I think they will warn against it.

[c-Z]

1-12 Test E @ 250/wk
1-10 Deca @ 600/wk

Those are the doses you plan on running???? 250/600.... I would do more like 500/400. Peronsally. Deca IIRC corectly my guy gets it a cc is 200mgs. so 2x a week deca 400mgs and 2x a week test 500mgs.

Personally I think your an idiot to run it that long. But its your body. Not mine.

[Knockout_Power]

1-12 Test E @ 250/wk
1-10 Deca @ 600/wk

Those are the doses you plan on running???? 250/600.... I would do more like 500/400. Peronsally. Deca IIRC corectly my guy gets it a cc is 200mgs. so 2x a week deca 400mgs and 2x a week test 500mgs.

Personally I think your an idiot to run it that long. But its your body. Not mine.

Normally I dont comment when people make dumb statements after clearly not reading the original post, but seriously, read before commenting cause it just makes you sound ignorant.

[Hazard]

tell him to come off and just run his PCT...... his next planned 12 weeks suck...... that much deca with that little test..... no dice. Run PCT..... prepare better for his next cycle.

just my opinion

~Haz~

[c-Z]

Normally I dont comment when people make dumb statements after clearly not reading the original post, but seriously, read before commenting cause it just makes you sound ignorant.

Dumb statements? original post? You only posted here once? No confusion buddy........

I did read and i did comment.... And whether it sounds ignorant or not.. I could care less really.... But like i said... if those are the doses... I would run the test 500 and deca 400..... 250 test next to 600 deca?

I'm no expert but will that be enough test to justify a limp noodle?

As hazard stated. The next 12 weeks he wants to do sucks... EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.

The statment was not dumb in any way.. Simple opinion. By you posting here opens the door for all criticism. Whether its good or bad. Deal with it or don't post? Maybe your just a little sensative...

I apoligize.

[The Deuce]

I don't see an issue with him running that... 25 weeks is not UNHEARD of for cycle length. But only more so if you are seasoned and have done quite a few cycles in your life. I wouldn't recommend doing it for that long.. NO ONE REALLY WILL. Fact remaining is... he probably won't gain much at all from it... Technically he should PCT and wait 12 or so weeks before doing that proposed cycle. Will it KILL him to run a cycle for 25 weeks? No... HE WILL HAVE TO DO an AGGRESSIVE PCT... and then... probably not do another cycle again for 6-8 months upon finishing the 25 weeker... IF THIS IS HIS FIRST CYCLE... THEN NO !!! DO NOT ADVISE HIM TO CONTINUE... He will do what he wants anyways... It's his body.. his life .. and his decision ultimately...

Is it the brightest idea in the world?? No... but then again I am an advocate for lengthy cycles..

And Haz.. I love ya buddy but.. TECHNICALLY... 250mgs EW of TEST is sufficient to keep MR. HAPPY ... well HAPPY... when running DECA... as long as he keeps his Caber on hand and A-dex... IMO.

I myself like the fact of just running TRT dose of TEST and allowing the OTHER compounds to do the HEAVY work.. as long as you have a baseline of TEST in your body to keep your LIL DUDE at full attention then there shouldn't be an issue. IS it best to do it that way.. maybe not.. but it's not a NO-NO.

That's all that really matters here right?? Keeping The LIL DUDE in working order correct?? and a TRT dose(200-250mgs EW) will do that... Is it essentially better to run TEST higher than the 19-NOR youre running?? Yah probably... but this stuff is NEVER written in STONE... You can experiment and do all sorts of different cycles to see how your body reacts.. sometimes it's good... sometimes it's bad... it's all different in EVERY single situation... some people can grow ridiculously off of 250mgs of TEST... others it takes 750mgs or More... EVERYONE is inherently different.

I personally would never run this proposed cycle... but who are we to judge and say NO HE CAN'T DO THAT... NO HE IS JUST DUMB FOR DOING...

That's not what this forum is about.. we give our OPINIONS... not to be judgmental... we offer suggestions on how to make things BETTER ... but we don't flame because someone throws out a cycle Idea.

I have had people tell me that my proposed cycles are ridiculous and stupid... and after overlooking them I go.. OH ... OH YAH... That isn't the brightest idea... let me change it.. but I am not going go and tell this guy he is an idiot for running a cycle like that... IT'S REALLY NOT THAT BAD GUYS !!! Come on now... now if he said 25 weeks of 2500mgs EW of TEST and 3000mgs of DECA EW with 100mgs ED of DBOL... all 25 weeks... yah then... THEN WE SHOULD CALL SOMEONE AN IDIOT...

THIS IS NOT A HORRIBLE CYCLE !! Lighten up on the poor dude... maybe he is going through some sh1t and this is his way of dealing with it... IT'S NOT GOING TO KILL HIM.. OR EVEN HARM HIM IN ANYWAY if he does a proper PCT and has BLOOD WORK done after it's all said and done...

There I have said my piece and my $.02 ... take it for what it's worth...

-The DEUCE

[c-Z]

250 test. 600 deca. will that not = limp noodle? Ive always heard of running a higher dose of test then deca.

Then again Ive never ran deca. And it is coming soon... but I will be doing:
500mgs test e 12 weeks
400mgs deca 10
and adrol 1-4.

As i have seen others similar but usually test amount exceed the deca

["Maximus"]

Nothing wrong doing 25wks as long as you know/he knows proper course of action in case any complications arise. Like perfectly explained by The Deuce, you must have all of your PCT chems on hand in case things go haywire. I won't say much as I agree with most of what Deuce wrote to you above.. I have done 25+ wks cycle myself!! I can't complaint.

["Maximus"]

250 test. 600 deca. will that not = limp noodle? Ive always heard of running a higher dose of test then deca.

Then again Ive never ran deca. And it is coming soon... but I will be doing:
500mgs test e 12 weeks
400mgs deca 10
and adrol 1-4.

As i have seen others similar but usually test amount exceed the deca

What's for PCT?

[The Deuce]

250 test. 600 deca. will that not = limp noodle? Ive always heard of running a higher dose of test then deca.

Then again Ive never ran deca. And it is coming soon... but I will be doing:
500mgs test e 12 weeks
400mgs deca 10
and adrol 1-4.

As i have seen others similar but usually test amount exceed the deca

No.. hahaha.. it doesn't = limp noodle... it can... all person dependent.. that's why there is such chems like caber in case of such things.. you can get limp noodle from 750mgs of Test and 200mgs of DECA... nothing is ever guaranteed.

You have a good cycle outlined there.. pretty basic second cycle .. is that what it is your 2nd??

Like Maximus said... what's ur planned PCT bro??

[peachfuzz]

I don't see an issue with him running that... 25 weeks is not UNHEARD of for cycle length. But only more so if you are seasoned and have done quite a few cycles in your life. I wouldn't recommend doing it for that long.. NO ONE REALLY WILL. Fact remaining is... he probably won't gain much at all from it... Technically he should PCT and wait 12 or so weeks before doing that proposed cycle. Will it KILL him to run a cycle for 25 weeks? No... HE WILL HAVE TO DO an AGGRESSIVE PCT... and then... probably not do another cycle again for 6-8 months upon finishing the 25 weeker... IF THIS IS HIS FIRST CYCLE... THEN NO !!! DO NOT ADVISE HIM TO CONTINUE... He will do what he wants anyways... It's his body.. his life .. and his decision ultimately...

Is it the brightest idea in the world?? No... but then again I am an advocate for lengthy cycles..

And Haz.. I love ya buddy but.. TECHNICALLY... 250mgs EW of TEST is sufficient to keep MR. HAPPY ... well HAPPY... when running DECA... as long as he keeps his Caber on hand and A-dex... IMO.

I myself like the fact of just running TRT dose of TEST and allowing the OTHER compounds to do the HEAVY work.. as long as you have a baseline of TEST in your body to keep your LIL DUDE at full attention then there shouldn't be an issue. IS it best to do it that way.. maybe not.. but it's not a NO-NO.

That's all that really matters here right?? Keeping The LIL DUDE in working order correct?? and a TRT dose(200-250mgs EW) will do that... Is it essentially better to run TEST higher than the 19-NOR youre running?? Yah probably... but this stuff is NEVER written in STONE... You can experiment and do all sorts of different cycles to see how your body reacts.. sometimes it's good... sometimes it's bad... it's all different in EVERY single situation... some people can grow ridiculously off of 250mgs of TEST... others it takes 750mgs or More... EVERYONE is inherently different.

I personally would never run this proposed cycle... but who are we to judge and say NO HE CAN'T DO THAT... NO HE IS JUST DUMB FOR DOING...

That's not what this forum is about.. we give our OPINIONS... not to be judgmental... we offer suggestions on how to make things BETTER ... but we don't flame because someone throws out a cycle Idea.

I have had people tell me that my proposed cycles are ridiculous and stupid... and after overlooking them I go.. OH ... OH YAH... That isn't the brightest idea... let me change it.. but I am not going go and tell this guy he is an idiot for running a cycle like that... IT'S REALLY NOT THAT BAD GUYS !!! Come on now... now if he said 25 weeks of 2500mgs EW of TEST and 3000mgs of DECA EW with 100mgs ED of DBOL... all 25 weeks... yah then... THEN WE SHOULD CALL SOMEONE AN IDIOT...

THIS IS NOT A HORRIBLE CYCLE !! Lighten up on the poor dude... maybe he is going through some sh1t and this is his way of dealing with it... IT'S NOT GOING TO KILL HIM.. OR EVEN HARM HIM IN ANYWAY if he does a proper PCT and has BLOOD WORK done after it's all said and done...

There I have said my piece and my $.02 ... take it for what it's worth...

-The DEUCE

so far i agree with this. ill let you guys know when i finish reading it in its entirety next week.

[Knockout_Power]

Dumb statements? original post? You only posted here once? No confusion buddy........

I did read and i did comment.... And whether it sounds ignorant or not.. I could care less really.... But like i said... if those are the doses... I would run the test 500 and deca 400..... 250 test next to 600 deca?

I'm no expert but will that be enough test to justify a limp noodle?

As hazard stated. The next 12 weeks he wants to do sucks... EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.

The statment was not dumb in any way.. Simple opinion. By you posting here opens the door for all criticism. Whether its good or bad. Deal with it or don't post? Maybe your just a little sensative...

I apoligize.

Im not dissagreeing with you and what you are saying, you directed the "idiot" comment at me when I clearly stated who this was for and I was looking for answers to relay to the person who wants to do this. My own personal cycle will start next week and is an equal balance of each compound with all my during cycle precautions and PCT on hand.

[icepick27]

good post duce ,i hate when people juge , like your going to die ,you stupid ,when every body here has ran a shitty cycle or a long cycle , not every one is a chemist ,or a pro and some people are just looking for a little advice ,not to get judged

[jimmyinkedup]

can it be dome - sure...is there a point of diminishing returns that makes coming off and waiting till next cycle to gain the few extra pounds more cost effective and prudent - of course. For me anything over 16 - 20 as my longest ... seems to result in dramatic decreases in gains...even with additional compounds thrown in the mix. Just my experince
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