WTF! liquidex or tamoxifen???

[SeXc1985]

sup guy's just got 3 vials of test e the other day and im trying to get all the shit i need for pct for my 12 week cycle of test e.

i orderd a bottle of liquidex, then i was told don't use liquidex during pct as nolva reduces the effect of liquidex.

so just have liquidex on hand incase gyno symptoms and bloat occure during your cycle? is this correct?

and i read the sticky from warmachine about how tamox can cure gyno etc etc... doesnt say shit about liquidex only letro and tamox.

do i need to get a bottle of tamoxifen?so far i got nolva, clomid, liquidex.

my pct looks like this...
100/50/50/50 clomid
40/20/20/20 nolva
liquidex on hand incase of esers.

[SeXc1985]

zzzz tamoxifen is nolva , i just have it in the pill form.

how exactly do you use liquidex? for bloat and gyno symptoms during your cycle right?

[CHAP]

your wat better off with the pill form anyway. L-dex I have never used but as far as I know it would be .25-.5 mg ed or eod you will def need some research on this. The rest looks pretty good.

[SeXc1985]

your wat better off with the pill form anyway. L-dex I have never used but as far as I know it would be .25-.5 mg ed or eod you will def need some research on this. The rest looks pretty good.

nice thx bro, only use liquidex for bloat and gyno symptoms during cycle correct? not for pct?

[SeXc1985]

anyone ever use liquidex or i jsut waiste my money?

[JACKEDnTan]

waste of money unless you hav gyno. use a-dex on cycle for estrogen related sides.

[SeXc1985]

anybody else used liquidex? i just did some 2 sec research someone said its the best on cycle ai around.

[DS21]

Well that person is right. I use arimidex as my AI on all cycles, but I am gyno prone.

No disrespect, but is that you in your Avy? IF so, I would really work on diet and training before you use any gear. Either way, best of luck.

[SeXc1985]

Well that person is right. I use arimidex as my AI on all cycles, but I am gyno prone.

No disrespect, but is that you in your Avy? IF so, I would really work on diet and training before you use any gear. Either way, best of luck.

why whats wrong? my diet is bulk, i went from 175 to 230ilbs in a year all natutral just from training and my diet, all i take is gold standard whey and mono creatin, a lilttle less then a year ago i couldnt even do 135ilb 10 times now i can bench 315 3 times i only lift for mass and power i know im not slim or cutt.

[SeXc1985]

waste of money unless you hav gyno. use a-dex on cycle for estrogen related sides.

isnt a-dex same as arimidex and arimidex same as liquidex???

[Roshambo]

in no way do I mean this in a negative way at all, nor am I flaming you, but one year first of all isn't squat for training, 2nd. as far as bulking up, where? I do not see it in your avatar, if that's you. 3rd, juice isnt going to work miracles, true power lifters lift for years before ever even using as they know the potential sides and how to manage their diet to suite. I have no idea what your stats are so....... it's hard to give any real advice without knowing your info.

[SeXc1985]

230ilbs
6'1
bf% unkown
weight lifting exp 5 years
cycle exp none all natural

[SeXc1985]

in no way do I mean this in a negative way at all, nor am I flaming you, but one year first of all isn't squat for training, 2nd. as far as bulking up, where? I do not see it in your avatar, if that's you. 3rd, juice isnt going to work miracles, true power lifters lift for years before ever even using as they know the potential sides and how to manage their diet to suite. I have no idea what your stats are so....... it's hard to give any real advice without knowing your info.

ive been wieght lifting for more then a year fyi, im saying i went from 175 to 230ilbs in a year and able to keep all of it very easily.

[SeXc1985]

anyways my diet and training has been bulk, im planing on cutting to 215 mabey 205 after my 12 week cycle of test e, and it wont be from loseing my gains etc etc it will be from cutting fat and gain dry hard lean muscle.

[gymnerd]

Adex is a very good idea to have on hand, it will lower your estrogen which is what will cause allot of those nasty sides. I would try this .25 mg eod if you start bloating badly, if that dont do it try .5 mg eod etc if the stuff is legit that should do the trick.

[Roshambo]

if you have got nolva on hand. then you also have tamox on hand as they are one and the same.

[SeXc1985]

mabey i need to post a before and after pic!
i have nolva and clomid and liquidex for pct and gymnerd thank you so much that information helps me alot thank you!

[SeXc1985]

not very good pics but here before and after pic.

[briancb1]

Honestly DS21 he doesn't care what you think he looks like. I dont care either, youre a grown man take whatever you want.

Now if you want my opinion how to run things...

.25mg ED arimidex through you whole cycles.
Dont "save" it for when you have symptoms thats called gambling, and for what?! Never read on here about one guys saying "I dropped the AI's this cycle and my gains were 2x as good!"...

Your PCT looks fine. Only thing I would add is HCG. Starting week 3 thorough week 12 Id run about 250 IUs every 3 days to keep your nuts from shrinking (atrophy). Drop the HCG about 5 days before PCT to let it clear your system.

good luck

NOTE: You ask tons of questions as I can see from this post. To save you from posting "Been on Test E for 3+ weeks feel no gain, is it bunk?!" Its gonna take around 5 weeks to feel strong and see good size come on unless you kick start it with Dbol or something.