previous cycle experiences have been all positive, with long estered compounds test/ deca, test/tren enth, test only several times, 12-16 wks for all those. my question is i want to try a short estered cycle like tren ace with either prop or sust, and want to know if 8-10 wks is enough? some of my friends who run this stuff say they geti n hard and get out quik. "short and sweet" so to speak what to guys know about it? thanx for the help