Year round

[CJP]

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with using AAS year round? I have some what of an idea of how it works but I need some more knowledge on the subject before I dive into it. I have been trying to find some good info but I have been coming up short. Basically im trying to find out if your doses would be the same as a normal 12 week cycle and then drop down to 500mgs a week and then jump back up to high doses again or is there a different way you want to set your levels. Also, im wondering if you do anything to help prevent testicular atrophy or since you are on all the time you just say goodbye to your natural test production. Any help would be great.

[T-MOS]

its called TRT

[Big]

if you go to "new posts", the thread touching yours is asking about the same thing.
how old are you?
what's your cycle history?
we have an entire section dedicated to trt.

[Twist]

"Basically im trying to find out if your doses would be the same as a normal 12 week cycle and then drop down to 500mgs a week and then jump back up to high doses"
I take it a normal cycle doses is pretty high for you.

the thread touching his also suggests cruising at 500mgs, why would someone do this?
especially if it is not for life

[Big]

"Basically im trying to find out if your doses would be the same as a normal 12 week cycle and then drop down to 500mgs a week and then jump back up to high doses"
I take it a normal cycle doses is pretty high for you.

the thread touching his also suggests cruising at 500mgs, why would someone do this?
especially if it is not for life

there would be no reason to cruise at 500mg/week, I too wonder why someone would do that.

[c-Z]

I would like to know your stats for someone considering all year.

[CJP]

This is not TRT or HRT. Not the normal meaning anyway. Im talking long term use for bodybuilding. When I say go from high doses to low I mean high as in 3000-4000mgs a week and low as in 500mgs for a bridge between high doses. I have been training for close to 8 years and I have been using steroids for almost 6 years. Im 23. I started using steroids farily young. The first few cycles I did were not the best but because I did start so early my cycles now are higher dosed. My cycles are advanced and I dont know when I want to start using all year round but im trying to find information about this so I will know when the time comes.

[T-MOS]

This is not TRT or HRT. Not the normal meaning anyway. Im talking long term use for bodybuilding. When I say go from high doses to low I mean high as in 3000-4000mgs a week and low as in 500mgs for a bridge between high doses. I have been training for close to 8 years and I have been using steroids for almost 6 years. Im 23. I started using steroids farily young. The first few cycles I did were not the best but because I did start so early my cycles now are higher dosed. My cycles are advanced and I dont know when I want to start using all year round but im trying to find information about this so I will know when the time comes.

again, what are your goals for doing this???
Unless you are a Pro bodybuilder there is just NO NEED

I have been lifting longer than you have been alive and using AAS for the past 10 years. (44) I am currently 5'11 and 260 after 8 or so cycles that were very light to mild considering ..... I just don't see what you expect you would gain in a year using that much gear except maybe Heart Failure

at 23 you are still too young to be using AAS let alone considering what you are.....your body won't last to see 30

[CHAP]

again, what are your goals for doing this???
Unless you are a Pro bodybuilder there is just NO NEED

I have been lifting longer than you have been alive and using AAS for the past 10 years. (44) I am currently 5'11 and 260 after 8 or so cycles that were very light to mild considering ..... I just don't see what you expect you would gain in a year using that much gear except maybe Heart Failure

at 23 you are still too young to be using AAS let alone considering what you are.....your body won't last to see 30

I you cruise at 500 and cycle at 3 grams you might beat the odds and live past 30......... But your organs will be so worn it will not be quality life.

Im, just guessing on this statment, But those are serious doses.

Im cruising on 400mg and IF and when I do a blast it will be 600mg and no higher that 750mg.

600 to 750 is considered high by alot on here .

Im just keeping it real as I can with you.





OH BY THE WAY.................
..........................................YOUR FREAKIN NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CJP]

Whats done is done. I started really young and im not going to stop using gear because some people think im too young now. I want to work my way up to being pro. And like I said, this is just for research right now. Im not going to start using all year tomorrow. When I say 3000-4000mgs a week, I dont mean just one compound. Test and d and whatever else together. Theres a reason I didnt mention my age in this thread from the get go. Its because people automatically think im too young or inexperienced because of it.

No disrespect but I feel im wasting my breath so to speak trying to explain myself. If anyone has knowledge or experience on this subject and they would like to share it with me I would appreciate it. If not, take it easy.

[Reed]

So what is your current stats or better yet post a pic. Working your way up to being a pro is great but you want to also work your way up on doses IMO.

[SilverTest]

ok ok , gve the guy a break . ok bro silver here , 23 also , planning to complete and i am into staying on year round .

i seriously doubt someone would die at 30 just because they are staying on year round.

but you might want to lower the maintenance dose to 200-250 mg of testper week bro.

500 is high and not necessary at all.

i would cruise between cycles at 250 mg per week test e , and blast at 500 mg with some other compounds , ALL in reasonable dosages , and never overdose because then , you WILL get problems.

blood work every 3 months or so , and if you can get yourself a good doctor who understands what you are doing even better.

also , use 250 iu's twice per week if you are worried about testicular atrophy.

hope this helps , but really think it through bro , very carefully.

[CJP]

Totally man. I have been working my way up doses. They are just getting higher. Im 6'4" and 245 at 8%BF. I have always been light for my size. Its kinda nice. Sounds better to have a lower weight and lift heavy weights.

[CHAP]

Whats done is done. I started really young and im not going to stop using gear because some people think im too young now. I want to work my way up to being pro. And like I said, this is just for research right now. Im not going to start using all year tomorrow. When I say 3000-4000mgs a week, I dont mean just one compound. Test and d and whatever else together. Theres a reason I didnt mention my age in this thread from the get go. Its because people automatically think im too young or inexperienced because of it.

No disrespect but I feel im wasting my breath so to speak trying to explain myself. If anyone has knowledge or experience on this subject and they would like to share it with me I would appreciate it. If not, take it easy.

Sorry bout that I was thinking 3-4 g,s a week per compound. Still alot but good that your doing the research.

And like REED said you should post tholse stats and pics and take the criticism.

It is the net if you cant take it here you wont make it as apro.

And there are pros on this site so the criticism may come from those who have already taken the path you are looking to travel.

[Reed]

Well unless you are competing or in the running for a pro card I see no reason not to come off. Its absolutely silly to be cruising and not having a set date on which you plan to do your shows. If you do I can completely understand but I would come off afterwards and take a break

I am coming off and I am currently 4 weeks from my contest, then have another one the following week, and also plan to take it as far as possible (25 here). There are some pros that come off after the contests and give their body a break, I talked some IFBB's pros in person that do this so I'm not spilling a bunch of shit as I live in town where I'm lucky to have some top high end guys come in and visit

Pics are much better, stats are one thing but its the way your physique flows that is important, muscle bellies, etc etc. I'm sure you know if someone does not have the genetics for it you can give them all the drugs in the world and you won't become a pro.

I've done two bulking cycles and this what I have achieved, nothing that impressive but I have the idea the less drugs the better and the more of a freak I truly am and can become. Think about it.......

[Immortal Soldier]

All I am going to say is search "cruise/blast", at your age that would be enough. (even though cruise/blast is for experienced people 30-40 years old) No need to do obscene amounts of steroids, all that will cause is a huge spike in catabolic hormones to off-set and the adaption of the body to that much gear.

Running year round or obscene dosages isn't going to make you 280 by the time your 25 or anything like that or else everyone here would be running steroids forever. Gains start to slow down the longer the cycle is until they baseline around 12-16 weeks then add that to your genetic limit and weight and as you start passing your genetic limit it gets harder and harder to gain 5lbs let alone 20lbs.

[T-MOS]

Totally man. I have been working my way up doses. They are just getting higher. Im 6'4" and 245 at 8%BF. I have always been light for my size. Its kinda nice. Sounds better to have a lower weight and lift heavy weights.

how about some pics???


there is a smart way to do what you propose and a not so smart way

at 6'4" you should be able to get to and maintain at least 260 NATURALLY

[CJP]

ok ok , gve the guy a break . ok bro silver here , 23 also , planning to complete and i am into staying on year round .

i seriously doubt someone would die at 30 just because they are staying on year round.

but you might want to lower the maintenance dose to 200-250 mg of testper week bro.

500 is high and not necessary at all.

i would cruise between cycles at 250 mg per week test e , and blast at 500 mg with some other compounds , ALL in reasonable dosages , and never overdose because then , you WILL get problems.

blood work every 3 months or so , and if you can get yourself a good doctor who understands what you are doing even better.

also , use 250 iu's twice per week if you are worried about testicular atrophy.

hope this helps , but really think it through bro , very carefully.

Theres no way someone would die at 30 unless they were sharing needles with a heroin addict and they got AIDs.

250mgs might be a bit better for a bridge but I dont think 500mgs would give you much of an increase. I mean you are already putting 250mgs into your body, how much would an extra 250 give you, really? IMO, I just feel that if you are going to be doing year round then you will most likely be doing closer to a gram of test for your "building" part of the year.

Thanks for the input though bro!

[CJP]

how about some pics???


there is a smart way to do what you propose and a not so smart way

at 6'4" you should be able to get to and maintain at least 260 NATURALLY

Unfortunately I dont have the ability to post up pictures of myself. I dont own any cameras and I have never been fond of having my picture taken. So there really isnt any of me floating around.

[SilverTest]

Theres no way someone would die at 30 unless they were sharing needles with a heroin addict and they got AIDs.

250mgs might be a bit better for a bridge but I dont think 500mgs would give you much of an increase. I mean you are already putting 250mgs into your body, how much would an extra 250 give you, really? IMO, I just feel that if you are going to be doing year round then you will most likely be doing closer to a gram of test for your "building" part of the year.

Thanks for the input though bro!

not necessarily bro , you will be on 500 mg PLUS other compounds , and yes you are correct you will not blow up like you are just begining , but you will progress slowly but FASTER than naturally. those blowing up cycles are just water weight bro , quality muscle takes time to be built ,even on AAS.

[Chev]

Unfortunately I dont have the ability to post up pictures of myself. I dont own any cameras and I have never been fond of having my picture taken. So there really isnt any of me floating around.

Even my grandma has a freakin camera phone.

[ninesecz]

MAN O MAN 500mg a week cruising dose???? I would be all I could be after a couple years of cruising like that! Not sure what I would blast at..... Oh Yeh I blast at 500 so I guess it would be one in the same!

[Fantomg]

Listen to yourself:
Sounds better to have a lower weight and lift heavy weights.[/QUOTE]

"Sounds Better....?" That's ego bro. There's no science to that ego. Bear with me. WHAT IF you could achieve the SAME or BETTER results with 1/3 the gear???? What if it were 1/4??? Listen to these "VETS". I am a friend of someone that's placed in the top 15 of the Mr. O 3 times now that doesn't take that much gear (just citing one friend of many). If you won't listen to any of these qualified posts regarding amounts. Take your dosages and get a good doc and test yourself. Watch the results you'll get. That WON'T be an opinion at that point. I'm not tootin' my horn, but my pic there is when I was 2 years older than you. 300mg's Test P/week, Tren A, 75mg's EOD, and WV 100mgs eod, and if I remember correctly (This was 15 years ago), a small amount of Halotest. Around a total combined of 1g of gear. I am but a mere pine cone in the steroid.com forest of knowledge and size in many cases. I have a low post count, but I CAN tell you that I've read read read and have been humbled, even felt like I was regressing in knowledge when I first started reading.
I will guarantee - If you dedicate, damn - just 30 days of diligent reading on this site - take the money that buys just 1g of what you THINK is your favorite hormone and apply it to a camera - post some legitimate stats, think about how to ask questions properly you want the answers to... use an attractive "Title" at the top for bait, and gratefully digest the FREE advice that flows your way when you get into the rhythm and way this site operates: You will be a healthier person 10 years from now, you might have some trophies under your belt (that stayed at 32inches) and if your conscious steers you right, you’ll be motivated by indebtedness from lessons learned here and actually lend some credible advice to the new young guys wanting it all “right now”.

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[nesci]

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[TractionIssues]

Is DSM hiding somewhere in this thread but we just can't see him?

[Dobie-BOY]

I have been running 250 mg's / week for about a year and have no problems with blood pressure, blood lipid profiles either. After my next cycle Im gonna cut it to 125 mgs per week.