on a deca only cyle, which is terrible yes i know, ANYWAYS can someone please just give me info on clomid, should it be used for pct? is the clomid on ar-r reliable? please just some answers on this cycle and pct
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on a deca only cyle, which is terrible yes i know, ANYWAYS can someone please just give me info on clomid, should it be used for pct? is the clomid on ar-r reliable? please just some answers on this cycle and pct
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i would try clomid/nolva. thats pretty standard these days. possibly remeron as well or hcg.
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Horrible Cycle, yes, u MUST Run Clomid and HCG for this cycle. IF it works. What did u run the deca at?Originally Posted by theblaze1987
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lets keep in mind i pretty much only have access to the internet here. so most of those i have not heard of
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Agreed with both comments above^^
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ok first i would like to say thank you guys for not just focussing on the horrible cycle, i know how horrible it is, but im already into it, it was a learning experience, test is out of the question for this cycle, so i am looking for some advice on pct, so knowing that it is deca only, i was reading some threads and trying to do some research on clomid for pct, but i am just to novice to know if ar-r clomid is reliable, how much to take, or anything concerning pct for this cycle. of course the guy i deal with tells me not to worry about it and that deca only is safe, right. anyways heres what it looks like 200mg a week. as i see you start the clomid a week after last injection, and continue 3-5 weeks after? will this help me keep any gains i do get? is it a daily thing or weekly?
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Drop the Deca immediatley, try and save ur d*ck. I hav never ordered from Lion... Maybe Marcus or Jigga can comment. And next time read and educate yourself before making a decision.
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Just stop the cycle and do pct now, the cycle is useless at 200mgs per week, deca only will cause you problems so get out now and try to recover and plan a proper cycle.
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see, the d***s not an issue, so.. i wouldnt be using it for the next 3-4 months anyways, and i cant quit go into that, but beside the deca d*** would you guys still strongly recomend me not to do it? just because of the deca d*** or is there another reason?
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Yes. Acne, water retention, deca will shut u down 100% from as little as 100mgs, also u might want to get Caber or Bromo
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how do i find all these pct chemicles if they are all illegal, simple as that, i have limited resources. is it possible to get them legally online? i know lagality is touchy here, but thats what a novice i am, i dont even know if what your telling me is legal or not
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Markus... ? What country are u from?
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its not like i am a big guy anyways, you dont think i will benifit anabolicly AT ALL from 200mg a week?
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Check out this webpage, it will tell you why Deca is NOT supposed to be run alone.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catdeca.htm
And I'm curious, why is Test out of the question for this cycle? Deca stays in your system 18 months compared to test which is about 3 months.
And the stuff from AR-R.com is ok. My buddie got some. Not the best but not the worst. If you get it, run 1cc orally ED till the bottles gone. It comes with a syringe, but obviously no needle since u put it under the tounge.
Last edited by Wheelie_Rider_R6; 09-08-2009 at 02:00 AM.
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well, its basically out of question because i am 3 injections into it, and say i could get test within maybe 2 weeks, that puts me halfway, its definatly to late to introduce it then right?
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Here is what your looking for....
http://www.ar-r.com/featured-product...l-20mg-ml.html
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Stop the Deca for now, get test and run it atleast one week before your first shot of deca. Although your too young to be running this cycle, I firmly believe that you wont be listening to any of us so all we can do is give you the correct advice. I would run 500mg's of test per week and stick to about 300-400mg's of deca/week.
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The correct advice is NOT rto run this cycle or any at his age, all he is doing is waiting for someone to tell him what he wants to hear like what you just said, he will ignore the rest of us because you just told him what he wanted to hear, you need to push the correct advice and not weaken to his pressure!
He has started this thread and another asking the same and everyone told him to stop, so steer him in the right direction instead of danger pls http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=400493
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marcus, is what wheelie is showing me correct? would i start that dailey when discontinueing the deca?
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yes, get nolva and clomid form that site............
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Drop the cycle, its useless and wont build any muscle and will cause you more harm than good, it might help with aching joints but as far as building tissue goes just drop the cycle. Go into PCT and recover and then plan for a proper cycle.
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No your using a therapeutic dose, forget deca for your first cycle it will cause you more harm than good especially if you upped the dose, the sides can be awfull. Cick the research company in the banner at the top of the page and get your PCT compounds.
How old are you?
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i am 22
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the site when i searched for clomid brought up LiquiDex
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Your to young to be doing AAS anyway, do you know that your HPTA what controls your testosterone isnt full developed yet? by shutting it down you could cause some serious probelms for the rest of your life! hopefully you wont have but by using AAS at your age can cause some awfull sides and cause damage to your own natural test.
Stop the cycle and go into PCT and recover and forget AAS, check out the diet section. for pct try these's http://www.ar-r.com/
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Why are you not listening?
Are you waiting for someone to tell you what you want to hear?
Trust me no one is going to tell you to run a deca only cycle at 22yrs old at 200mgs per wk.
Did you know In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.
Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.
Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.
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Stop the cycle and do a pct,
dont cycle again till your 24yrs -25yrs
Check out the diet section and you will achieve your goals with a proper diet at your age.
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