clen

[Razor172]

hi all just wondering if clens can be used before a cycle. or is it for after cycle only? thanks

[redz]

Give us some stats first off. It can be used before or after but tell us more about you and what you are trying to do.

[Razor172]

well here is my other post in the diet section. i guess i want to bulk but would like to get my fat down alittle more on my stomach

hi all
been trying to get diet just right reading alot and getting ideas from everyones post thanks guys. with the way my schedule runs i kind of set this up. first my stats are age 42, 5'11in, 170lbs, bf is like 12-15 maybe very active my goal is to put on mass and the cut i hope.

5am protein shake
7am gym
10am 4 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, 8oz of orange juice, whole wheat toast, and 1 cup of oatmeal
12noon protein shake
1pm bedtime
5-6pm dinner with family chicken, beef, veggie, potato or pasta
8pm protein shake
8-10pm back to bed
10pm ready for work ( I was going to put a protein shake here to)
12am can of tuna or chicken breast sandwich on whole wheat bread
3am dinner basiclly what ever i put together from dinner that night( brown rice) then i start over 5am

ok so this is what i got for schedule my next step is all the numbers my BMR is 2300-2400 i think if im doing it right and with a moderate activity factor and think it something like 3800 that sounds high. This is where i need the help of the pros here and see if i can get some help in tweaking this setup. I really have no cycle time under my belt but most likely will do a test only or add dbol the novice cycle I. so i could use all the help i can get
thanks Razor




Cals Fat (g) Carbs (g) Prot (g)
Total 2,897 56.2 277.3 304.6

[redz]

You would probably be best to run the cycle then do the clen after atleast thats how I would do it.

[Razor172]

sounds good after pct or with it?