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    Did Test on its own, now looking at Test & Deca

    I've done one cycle of Testosterone on its own (Testoviron250 and Sustanon250), and it went fine. I was taking 583 mg per week and my body didn't react badly, I didn't get any bad side-effects. I also didn't get any bad side-effects from my PCT of Clomiphene and Tamoxifen.

    I'm thinking about doing Testosterone Enanthate and Deca-Durabolin for my next cycle.

    I'm thinking of making it a 12-week cycle.

    I've seen that a lot of people run Test and Deca together something like as follows:
    Week 1-10 : 1cc of Deca every 3rd day
    Week 1-12: 1cc of Test E every 3rd day

    Why do people stop taking the Deca sooner? Is it simply because it has a longer ester? Or is there another reason?

    I've done one cycle so far taking Testosterone on its own and it made be bloat up like a balloon, so I'm thinking an AI would be suitable for my next cycle, so I'm thinking about taking 0.25mg of Arimidex every day while on-cycle. How does that sound?

    Also I don't want my balls to shrink this time so I'm also considering hCG. I'm thinking 200iu's every day. How does that sound?

    If I have any problems with this cycle, I'll know it's the Deca, because I've already done a cycle of Test on its own and I had no problems. Worst case scenario, if the Deca plays games with me, I'll just drop it and do the Test on its own.

    People have mentioned that they use D-Bol to kickstart for the first 3 or 4 weeks. Of course I would like to do this, but then I would have "two unknowns" in my system at one time, meaning that if I had bad side-effects then I wouldn't know whether it was caused by the D-Bol or by the Deca. I'm wondering if I would be wise to leave the D-Bol out of it, or is D-Bol considered safe?

    I'd like help filling in the following question marks please:

    Deca-Durabolin : Week 1-? : 1cc E3D
    Test Enanthate : Week 1-12 : 1cc E3D
    Dianobol : Week 1-4 : 50 mg ED (Is 50 mg an OK dosage?)
    Arimidex : Week 1-? : 0.25mg ED
    hCG : Week 1-? : 200iu's every ED

    After the 12th week I would take nothing for 2 weeks, and then do the following PCT:

    Clomiphene: 100/50/50/50
    Tamoxifen: 40/20/20/20

    Really the only thing I'm having doubts about is the D-bol, because if I suffer bad sides then I won't know whether to stop the Deca or to stop the D-bol!

    First though I need to fill in the red question marks above.

    By the way I should mention that I've started taking diet advice from a guy at my gym who's big and ripped (and he's not an asshole thankfully). He's 5'4" tall, weighs 57 kg and has 5% bodyfat, he looks awesome. He's already been giving me food advice but I told him I'd like to go shopping with him and see exactly what stuff he buys and where he gets it.
    Last edited by KimboHalfSlice; 10-12-2009 at 10:28 AM.

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