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    Thumbs up Need opinions

    31 years old
    3rd cycle
    14-16% bf
    Clean diet
    Training – 6 years
    1st and 2nd cycle– dbol kickstart / deca 400 p/week, sust 500 p/week (great results, lotta water retention)

    3rd cycle goal: Minimum water bloat and serious bulk

    Cycle

    1-14 NPP 600/week shot ed
    1-16 Test P 750/week shot ed same syringe as NPP
    2-16 adex .25-.5mg/eod (to keep the bloat down)
    4-16 hcg 250iu e3d
    16-18 Winstorl bridge to PCT

    PCT starting 10 days after last inject

    18-22 nolvadex 20mg/ed
    18-22 aromasin 25mg/ed

    Question 1) Will adex or hcg during cycle hurt my gains?
    Question 2) How does my PCT look? Should I use clomid or dostinex? I have dealt with gyno with my last cycle
    Question 3) Should I use an oral to kicstart this cycle? (T-bol or Anavar). I have seen where they use orals at the end of cycles now, why?
    Question 4) Is 600 p/week too much NPP? I heard 400 dose works well?

    Open to opinions and criticisms

  2. #2
    I'm sure someone has some crap to say about this cycle...cmon, I would like some opinions please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarhead.00 View Post
    31 years old
    3rd cycle
    14-16% bf
    Clean diet
    Training – 6 years
    1st and 2nd cycle– dbol kickstart / deca 400 p/week, sust 500 p/week (great results, lotta water retention)

    3rd cycle goal: Minimum water bloat and serious bulk

    Cycle

    1-14 NPP 600/week shot ed (too long should stop around 7-8 weeks, how do you measure 85.71mg per day?)
    1-16 Test P 750/week shot ed same syringe as NPP (too long should stop around 9-10 weeks, how do you measure 107.14mg per day?)
    2-16 adex .25-.5mg/eod (to keep the bloat down) Not needed, with those two compounds you shouldn't bloat
    4-16 hcg 250iu e3d
    16-18 Winstorl bridge to PCT I wouldn't run it

    PCT starting 10 days after last inject (PCT needs to start 3 days after your last injection of prop)

    18-22 nolvadex 20mg/ed (PCT needs work)
    18-22 aromasin 25mg/ed

    Question 1) Will adex or hcg during cycle hurt my gains?
    Question 2) How does my PCT look? Should I use clomid or dostinex? I have dealt with gyno with my last cycle
    Question 3) Should I use an oral to kicstart this cycle? (T-bol or Anavar). I have seen where they use orals at the end of cycles now, why?
    Question 4) Is 600 p/week too much NPP? I heard 400 dose works well?

    Open to opinions and criticisms
    read above in bold

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    RANA, thanks for the response. Also what weren't you feeling about the PCT?

    1-8 NPP 600/wk shot ed
    1-10 TEST P 750/wk
    4-16 hcg 250iu e3d

    PCT starts 3 days after last shot
    18-22 nolvadex 20mg/ed
    18-22 aromasin 25mg/ed

    Question 2) How does my PCT look? Should I use clomid or dostinex? I have dealt with gyno with my last cycle
    Question 3) Should I use an oral to kicstart this cycle? (T-bol or Anavar). I have seen where they use orals at the end of cycles now, why?
    Question 4) Is 600 p/week too much NPP? I heard 400 dose works well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarhead.00 View Post
    RANA, thanks for the response. Also what weren't you feeling about the PCT?

    1-8 NPP 600/wk shot ed
    1-10 TEST P 750/wk
    4-16 hcg 250iu e3d

    PCT starts 3 days after last shot
    18-22 nolvadex 20mg/ed
    18-22 aromasin 25mg/ed

    Question 2) How does my PCT look? Should I use clomid or dostinex? I have dealt with gyno with my last cycle
    Question 3) Should I use an oral to kicstart this cycle? (T-bol or Anavar). I have seen where they use orals at the end of cycles now, why?
    Question 4) Is 600 p/week too much NPP? I heard 400 dose works well?
    2- use nolva dex 40/40/20/20-clomid 100/50/50/25

    3- no need to use a kick start as your useing short ester fast acting injectables,people use oral like winny ,var at end of cycle to harden up muscle and give good conditioning

    4-yes 600mgs npp is over kill imo 400 will give greaat results with the right diet.

    ps- i would cut the prop down to 500-600mgs per week to.

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    Revised

    1-8 NPP 400/wk shot ed
    1-10 TEST P 600/wk
    4-10 HCG 250iu e3d

    PCT starts 3 days after last shot
    3 days after last shot - Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 (4 weeks total)
    3 days after last shot - Clomid 100/50/50/25 (4 weeks total)

    Questions:

    Should I use aromasin or dostinex? I have dealt with gyno with my last cycle
    Is 600 p/week too much NPP? I heard 400 dose works well?
    Should I stick with the HCG?

    Other opinions please?
    Last edited by Jarhead.00; 10-30-2009 at 08:24 PM.

  7. #7
    bump, more opinions please. additions?

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    I would run the HCG..... 250iu's every 2 to 3 days.

    Keep arimidex on hand incase gyno flares up.... dostinex/caber for the npp.

    ~Haz~

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    Last edited by Jarhead.00; 11-01-2009 at 06:39 AM.

  10. #10
    Going to start Letro 2 weeks before first pin, I have had gyno in the past

    1-8 NPP 400/wk shot ed
    1-10 TEST P 600/wk shot ed with NPP
    2-10 HCG 250iu e3d

    PCT starts 3 days after last pin
    3 days after last shot - Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 (4 weeks total)
    3 days after last shot - Clomid 100/50/50/25 (4 weeks total)

    Questions:

    Is letro the best thing to use? How much should I use? I have read not to go over .5 per day, but there is quite conflicting results on the board.

    I hear alot of people shooting test p in all different places....The only place I want to shoot it is in my rear end, is this ok? Will it lost effectiveness?

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    bump

    input please

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