Sus, EQ, Anadrol, and GH!!!!

[YouSeeIt]

I posted my cycle in the GH forum and received some good feedback but since this is the AAS forum I have decided to repost to get some more advice.
I am 24 years old 190 lbs and 6 feet tall and this will be my third cycle. But my first cycle while on GH. I am looking for any advice or feedback but here is my plan:

Week 1:
Sustenon 375 mg
EQ 450 mg
Anadrol 50 mg/ed-5 weeks
GH 4 IU's/ed

after a couple weeks of this I will move up to about 600 mg of test and 600 mg EQ. And maybe closer to the end of the cycle move up to 750 of each per week. During this cycle I will be gradually increasing my GH by .5 IU's every 2 weeks until I reach 6 IU's ed.

Question 1: should I start out running more sustenon and EQ or build up to a higher amount over the duration of the cycle?
Question 2: I was only planning on running a 10 week cycle but I have read a lot about EQ and I am wondering if I should maybe run this cycle for 12 weeks. I really dont want to go longer than that? I know EQ is not everyones favorite compound but I would like to try it for myself. I am mostly interested in the appetite increase.

Other than that I am extremely excited and I am starting tomorrow Jan 1, 2010!!!!! Have a happy new year and thanks for any feedback ahead of time.

[TITANIUM]

I would not ramp up, as I don't believe the benifit of it.

If you are dead set on EQ, I would run it towards the end of the cycle.

I would run the sust out to 12 wks @ 500/600 wk

I'm not a fan of EQ as I think winny is a better choice.IMHO.

Best

T

[YouSeeIt]

Thanks for the advice T.
Are you saying that EQ is similar to Winnie? I thought EQ was for bulking and winnie was a cutter? My gaol is to gain as much weight as possible and thats what I based my cycle around maybe I need to rethink this whole thing?

[TITANIUM]

Thanks for the advice T.
Are you saying that EQ is similar to Winnie? I thought EQ was for bulking and winnie was a cutter? My gaol is to gain as much weight as possible and thats what I based my cycle around maybe I need to rethink this whole thing?

I would dump the drol, personaly.

Yes, winny is a cutter for the most part, but when you bulk up off the rest of the cycle, you can add the winny,say last 4 wks maybe 6, and run it up to pct.

It will help you shed some unwanted water gain and such from your cycle.

Best

T

[TITANIUM]

Test, deca, and d-bol, will put weight on like no other.

You can run the HGH still.

Then add winny towards the end.

Simple , yet effective cycle.

Just an example cycle.

best

T

[YouSeeIt]

Actually that sounds like a good plan. What if I keep the cycle as is, keep the drol for the first 4-5 weeks and run the winnie the last 4 or 5 weeks of the cycle. The reason I want to try the drol is because I have tried dbol in the past and only gained like 5-10 lbs from it because I have a crazy fast metabolism so I want to see how I react to the drol.

[TITANIUM]

Actually that sounds like a good plan. What if I keep the cycle as is, keep the drol for the first 4-5 weeks and run the winnie the last 4 or 5 weeks of the cycle. The reason I want to try the drol is because I have tried dbol in the past and only gained like 5-10 lbs from it because I have a crazy fast metabolism so I want to see how I react to the drol.

You can do that.

Sounds like a plan.

Keep us informed.

best

T

[Bossman]

Considering your GH use. You should start at 2IU and then ramp up as you get used to the sides. There are sides with GH. Water retention and numbness of the hands will be most pronounced when starting. It's a good idea to cycle GH 5 days on/2days off to keep your natural production functioning.

Are you using the GH for fat management or muscle growth? You will get best results for fat loss splitting the dose, 1/2 dose first thing in the AM on wakening and the remainder late afternoon.

[YouSeeIt]

cgb6810-I am using the GH for muscle growth and I am going on my third month using gh and thats why I am up to 4IU's. I split my dose first thing in the morning and then again 4 hours later.

[D7M]

I posted my cycle in the GH forum and received some good feedback but since this is the AAS forum I have decided to repost to get some more advice.
I am 24 years old 190 lbs and 6 feet tall and this will be my third cycle. But my first cycle while on GH. I am looking for any advice or feedback but here is my plan:

Week 1:
Sustenon 375 mg
EQ 450 mg
Anadrol 50 mg/ed-5 weeks
GH 4 IU's/ed

after a couple weeks of this I will move up to about 600 mg of test and 600 mg EQ. And maybe closer to the end of the cycle move up to 750 of each per week. During this cycle I will be gradually increasing my GH by .5 IU's every 2 weeks until I reach 6 IU's ed.

Question 1: should I start out running more sustenon and EQ or build up to a higher amount over the duration of the cycle?
Question 2: I was only planning on running a 10 week cycle but I have read a lot about EQ and I am wondering if I should maybe run this cycle for 12 weeks. I really dont want to go longer than that? I know EQ is not everyones favorite compound but I would like to try it for myself. I am mostly interested in the appetite increase.

Other than that I am extremely excited and I am starting tomorrow Jan 1, 2010!!!!! Have a happy new year and thanks for any feedback ahead of time.

If you're already up to 4iu's/day without sides, you could probably ramp the GH up a little faster than .5iu's every 2 weeks.

If you can afford it, 6-8iu's during your cycle would be best.

[gymnerd]

I really like the combo of compounds you have there. I would run the doses a bit higher myself. On the gh it really depends on what you got, there is a big difference between 5iu of blue tops vs 5iu of hyges. I would try to get up to 6iu and take it all PWO.

[YouSeeIt]

My GH is Chinese Yellow tops. I am going to ramp up the cycle a bit and probably get to about 6 IU's ed maybe even a bit higher depending on my funds. I have 10 kits right now so I should be good for a while. I think I am going to just run the EQ at 600 mg all the way through and about 750 mg of the sus, and stay at 50 mg of anadrol everyday for about 5 weeks. Thanks to everyone for the feedback. I start the cycle tomorrow and I will let everyone know how it goes. Anyone know how long it takes for the appetite increase to occur from the EQ.
My new years resolution is to become the biggest beast I can become in the year 2010!!! I think I am on the right path

[Bossman]

cgb6810-I am using the GH for muscle growth and I am going on my third month using gh and thats why I am up to 4IU's. I split my dose first thing in the morning and then again 4 hours later.

Ok, as suggested by gymnerd, all post workout would be best for muscle growth. Still, best on workout days only so your body still continues to produce gh.

[gymnerd]

My GH is Chinese Yellow tops. I am going to ramp up the cycle a bit and probably get to about 6 IU's ed maybe even a bit higher depending on my funds. I have 10 kits right now so I should be good for a while. I think I am going to just run the EQ at 600 mg all the way through and about 750 mg of the sus, and stay at 50 mg of anadrol everyday for about 5 weeks. Thanks to everyone for the feedback. I start the cycle tomorrow and I will let everyone know how it goes. Anyone know how long it takes for the appetite increase to occur from the EQ.
My new years resolution is to become the biggest beast I can become in the year 2010!!! I think I am on the right path

Now we are talking.

[gymnerd]

Ok, as suggested by gymnerd, all post workout would be best for muscle growth. Still, best on workout days only so your body still continues to produce gh.

Yes, I wanted to say that too.

[Test247]

Cycle looks good. Just start the test at 500mg/wk and stay there for a full 12 weeks minimum. EQ is a LONG ester, one of the longest. You should run it 14 weeks minimum. I ran it for 20 weeks last time and that was the best, retained all my gains nicely. Also the more EQ the better. I went 800mg/wk last time.

Nothing wrong with the anadrol. I like winny but it makes me break out so I don't use it anymore.

The GH is the only thing to ramp up on cuz of the sides.

Hope you do well. Let us know how it goes Im about the same as you. Few years older. 28, 6', 205lbs. Off cycle now but just about to start, GH, Anadrol, Test, Deca and EQ again.

[Test247]

Some people go high on test like 750mg. I never see an improvement past 400mg myself. You really need to keep your estrogen checked properly, not too high or low once you start playing with those higher amounts. Your also likely to get gyno so have something on hand for that.

If your estrogen gets outta whack your SHBG will shoot up causing your free testosterone to suck. I ran 750mg of test a week and had the same free testosterone levels as I did OFF CYCLE. Because my estrogen was through the rough and my SHBG was really high and I had very little free testosterone but tons of it overall. Just FYI.

Im excited to try ADROL for the first time.

[gymnerd]

Cycle looks good. Just start the test at 500mg/wk and stay there for a full 12 weeks minimum. EQ is a LONG ester, one of the longest. You should run it 14 weeks minimum. I ran it for 20 weeks last time and that was the best, retained all my gains nicely. Also the more EQ the better. I went 800mg/wk last time.

Nothing wrong with the anadrol. I like winny but it makes me break out so I don't use it anymore.

The GH is the only thing to ramp up on cuz of the sides.

Hope you do well. Let us know how it goes Im about the same as you. Few years older. 28, 6', 205lbs. Off cycle now but just about to start, GH, Anadrol, Test, Deca and EQ again.

I really think anyone with experiance should run 750mg a wk of test IMO 500mg does almost nothing for me and thats with HG I would run the 750 and leave the 1/2 gram and under doses to newbs and girls.

[Test247]

Lol your absurd. What are your free test levels and estrogen levels? Have you had them checked on cycle? My free test at 400mg a week is 1000+ on a chart of 10-90.

What kind of estrogen suppression are you using?

[gymnerd]

Lol your absurd. What are your free test levels and estrogen levels? Have you had them checked on cycle? My free test at 400mg a week is 1000+ on a chart of 10-90.

What kind of estrogen suppression are you using?

Never had them checked on just run and AI when its needed but 500mg of test is very low if you dont think so try more

[Test247]

Ive run 750 felt no difference. Just for you I will try it again. :P.

What AI do you use and when do you know when to start? Ive battled gyno dyno 3-4x now so I just run Adex .5 eod with 20mg tamox daily

[gymnerd]

Ive run 750 felt no difference. Just for you I will try it again. :P.

What AI do you use and when do you know when to start? Ive battled gyno dyno 3-4x now so I just run Adex .5 eod with 20mg tamox daily

Man, I just run adex at .5mg eod when I get really bloated works for me. Some have to run letro its an individual thing.

[Test247]

yeah I know. Im more sensitive since Ive gotten full blown bad gyno a couple times now and had to go on courses of 120mg ED tamox to get rid of em. My nipples go before I ever get bloated unfortunately..

whats ur stats?

[YouSeeIt]

So are you guys saying to run the GH post workout for best results and only run it on days I workout? Because I have been running it everyday so far 2 injections daily. one early AM and the other four hours later. So should I do 2.5 IU's when I wake up and then 2.5 IUs after I workout?
thanks again for all the help

[Test247]

theres no conclusion on this. Its all opinion and conjecture. A lot of conflicting opinions out there. I say try all and see what feels best in your body.

Personally late morning I take 1 shot of GH. I don't take days off.

[gymnerd]

So are you guys saying to run the GH post workout for best results and only run it on days I workout? Because I have been running it everyday so far 2 injections daily. one early AM and the other four hours later. So should I do 2.5 IU's when I wake up and then 2.5 IUs after I workout?
thanks again for all the help

If you are looking for muscle gains I would do 6+iu PWO. So figure out how many iu you are running now and divide that up to work out days,.

[gymnerd]

yeah I know. Im more sensitive since Ive gotten full blown bad gyno a couple times now and had to go on courses of 120mg ED tamox to get rid of em. My nipples go before I ever get bloated unfortunately..

whats ur stats?

36
6'2"
275
13%bf
20+yrs training
completely retarded
Last cycle

Test Schering test e 750 mg wk
Drol anapolon 100mg ed
deca Norma hellas 600mg wk.
Winni 50mg ED last 5wks
********** 8iu PWO
worked pretty good but I am no IFBB pro either so it all depends what your goals are also.

[Test247]

thats great size. How big did you get naturally. I am 28 6' 205, 8%.

I may try a bigger cycle this time with 750 test and GH if I can afford it, plus running 100mg ADROL for 6 weeks, Ive never usd adrol before yet. And Deca's always great. I can usually handle more than 400-500mg tho or it murders my sex drive.

[YouSeeIt]

36
6'2"
275
13%bf
20+yrs training
completely retarded
Last cycle

Test Schering test e 750 mg wk
Drol anapolon 100mg ed
deca Norma hellas 600mg wk.
Winni 50mg ED last 5wks
********** 8iu PWO
worked pretty good but I am no IFBB pro either so it all depends what your goals are also.

Wow thats pretty funny and your stats are very impressive for a retard.
J/K but I will do my GH injections PWO because I am aiming for muscle growth Now i just need to figure out a way to do that considering I workout at my school in the middle of my day. Maybe I will pack a lunchbox with my GH inside

[Test247]

very impressive. I feel like I need GH to break my next plateau. Im saving up for a long cycle.

[gymnerd]

Wow thats pretty funny and your stats are very impressive for a retard.
J/K but I will do my GH injections PWO because I am aiming for muscle growth Now i just need to figure out a way to do that considering I workout at my school in the middle of my day. Maybe I will pack a lunchbox with my GH inside

Bro,just do it first chance you get no worries.

[Test247]

how long u run the anadrol for? complete cycle? I think the liver toxicity of orals is overrated. I ran dbol at 60mg for 10 weeks before no issues whatsoever.

[YouSeeIt]

I am planning on running the anadrol for 5 weeks at 50 mgs a day because I havent used it before but I have heard that you shouldnt run it for longer than 6 weeks and people have told me that above 75 mgs they get bad headaches but everyone reacts differently so you may be able to run 100 mgs.

[YouSeeIt]

gymnerd or cgb i was wonder if I should do my sus shots once a week or e3d or will it not make a difference?

[Test247]

Sust always has to be 2x a week minimum for somewhat stable levels. EOD is ideal. I would use Cyp 2x a week...

[Misery13]

I love eq...I run it at 600mg a week with 750mg of test e I feel that it different than winny...both are good for cuts but with eq I have found more vascularity and size due to the increase in appetite with the eq...

[Bossman]

Lol your absurd. What are your free test levels and estrogen levels? Have you had them checked on cycle? My free test at 400mg a week is 1000+ on a chart of 10-90.

What kind of estrogen suppression are you using?

That's impressive. Almost hard to believe. My free test was 250 when running 500 week of Test C and my estrogen was 49.

I was using an AI also.

[Bossman]

gymnerd or cgb i was wonder if I should do my sus shots once a week or e3d or will it not make a difference?

Twice a week is ok.

[hankdiesel]

Thanks for the advice T.
Are you saying that EQ is similar to Winnie? I thought EQ was for bulking and winnie was a cutter? My gaol is to gain as much weight as possible and thats what I based my cycle around maybe I need to rethink this whole thing?

Eq is not for bulking. It's the weakest steroid out.

[Test247]

That's impressive. Almost hard to believe. My free test was 250 when running 500 week of Test C and my estrogen was 49.

I was using an AI also.

estrogen was 49 on what kinda scale. Mine was 1.1 on a scape of .8-1.5 for men.

When I let it get to 15. My test went from 1000+ to 155.

I can post the results