joint and injection site pains

[scott.s]

Im on day 9 of an 8 wk cycle of oral winstrol 50mg ed and a injection blend of 70mg/ml test prop , 65mg masteron, 65mg tren acetate. ive had 5 jabs upto now aswell as the orals and not really feeling a huge difference except my shoulder joints really ache. first 2 was in my delts which werent to bad then my ass which still hurts now then my left thigh yesterday which is sore today affecting me walking. aswell as this keep getting bad circulation in feet and hands ( pins and needles ) is this normal as this is my first injection cycle.
stats..30yrs old
15st 8
5,9
14%bf
1 previous cycle of var only
goal= to lean out as much as poss and gain a little size if poss.
thanks for advice

[Bossman]

You're running too many compounds for your first injectable cycle. I know they are a blend, but still too many. And you're running a fast esther requiring more frequent injections. With winny you've got 4 compounds, an advanced cycle.

You should be running a long esthered test which only needs 2 injections per week your first cycle.

You'll need minimum 6 sites, sounds like you've got them; delts, glutes, thighs. The first time you inject virgin muscle (muscle that's never been pinned before) it's going to hurt. But, the muscle will get used to it as you go on. Winny causes joint pain in some people(not all). I can hardly train after being on winny for a few weeks. You should drop the winny now.

How old are you??

[Mooseman33]

agreed with cgb.

also, u are running a blend of mast/tren/prop which is a painfull injection..put on top of that they are virgin sites, dammit man, it will sting..

the joints are going to hurt from the winny, but sounds like u are having injection site pain, give the winny time and it will fvkin cripple u....

[scott.s]

should i switch the winny to anavar 50mg ed?

[scott.s]

after yesterdays injection in my left thigh i have been on my feet for most of today and the bottom of my thigh muscle around my knee has swollen and quite sore is this normal as im worried about jabbing my right thigh.

[Bossman]

after yesterdays injection in my left thigh i have been on my feet for most of today and the bottom of my thigh muscle around my knee has swollen and quite sore is this normal as im worried about jabbing my right thigh.

This wouldn't be normal for me, but you're injecting a tri-blend into virgin muscle. Hard to say if it's bad gear because it would be normal for you to be in pain.

You're only a week in, do you have anything for PCT? You're going to have a tough time keeping this up for long. I would run a PCT and try to get my hands on a long esthered test for my next injectable cycle. Either Test c or Test E, no other compounds necessary.

[scott.s]

Ive got nolva and just waiting for clomid from source. im only looking to do a 8 week cycle and was informed that long esters dont peak til round wk 5 thats why i chose a test p . i dont mind the injections just hadn't experienced swelling before. seems to be easing off as the day goes on. i took your advice and have dropped the winny as of today. As i will have to end the cycle early march should i carry on with the blend injections alone. should i of seen a result yet from it?

[Bossman]

I feel on after a week of short esthers. It's up to you if you want to continue. The pain should be less and become easier to deal with. Tough first injectable cycle.

Test P/Tren/Mast is a classic cutting cycle. If you want to lose bf and maintain mass this is a good choice, but not recommended for beginners. You may develop more sides as time goes on from the tren. You may experience some hair loss from the Mast.

[scott.s]

I feel on after a week of short esthers. It's up to you if you want to continue. The pain should be less and become easier to deal with. Tough first injectable cycle.

Test P/Tren/Mast is a classic cutting cycle. If you want to lose bf and maintain mass this is a good choice, but not recommended for beginners. You may develop more sides as time goes on from the tren. You may experience some hair loss from the Mast.

Cutting and maintaining mass is my goal. Thanks for the advice on the winny. Hair loss from Mast, does that target every user or those already prone to this ,just that i am lucky to have no history of hair lose in my family and my missus would see her ass if there was hair all over the pillow. How bad are the sides off tren?

[Bonaparte]

Your joints hurt because you're using a shitload of 5a-reduced compounds and too little test. Terrible first real cycle.

[Bossman]

Cutting and maintaining mass is my goal. Thanks for the advice on the winny. Hair loss from Mast, does that target every user or those already prone to this ,just that i am lucky to have no history of hair lose in my family and my missus would see her ass if there was hair all over the pillow. How bad are the sides off tren?

I know some are very concerned about hairloss, but not me. I really can't say how much this may affect you.

Tren affects different people in different ways. Look at my avatar, I can only handle 50mg of tren a day. I have crazy mood swings, can't sleep, night sweats and breathing issues on tren. I do gain weight whenever I add it to a cycle, but at a cost.

[scott.s]

I know some are very concerned about hairloss, but not me. I really can't say how much this may affect you.

Tren affects different people in different ways. Look at my avatar, I can only handle 50mg of tren a day. I have crazy mood swings, can't sleep, night sweats and breathing issues on tren. I do gain weight whenever I add it to a cycle, but at a cost.

i haven t gained any weight or lost any and dont feel much different and it ll be 2 wk tuesday is this right. thought fast acting kicks in quicker than this!