Anouther first cycle thread

[Ghost823]

Hey lads and ladies I understand that you get this all the time bit as mch info as you can give would be great I'm here to get your views and info
I'm on a diet and have been for a wial now 18weeks high protein a few carb and protein mixd shakes protein bars for snacking but I seem to be a hard gainer I've been training for 2years with small results my family gene isn't great my mother is 4"8 in height so at 5"8 I think I'm as tall as I'm going to get food just wont pile on me so I'm looking for somthink light to stock on a bit of meat I've read alot of people don't like this cycle but then alot do
dbol+a good pct to keep the gain after post cycle or am I way off and should just go for a test e cycle with dbol to kick start the cycle
dumbell press 40-45kg
barbell press 105kg
weight 65kg
height 5"8

all info is highly greatful thanks in advance

[Aizen Sosuke]

How old are you? Do you know your bodyfat%? IMO you area bit underweight and diet is probably at fault. If you don't mind posting your current one we could start from there.

[Krio]

Hey lads and ladies I understand that you get this all the time bit as mch info as you can give would be great I'm here to get your views and info
I'm on a diet and have been for a wial now 18weeks high protein a few carb and protein mixd shakes protein bars for snacking but I seem to be a hard gainer I've been training for 2years with small results my family gene isn't great my mother is 4"8 in height so at 5"8 I think I'm as tall as I'm going to get food just wont pile on me so I'm looking for somthink light to stock on a bit of meat I've read alot of people don't like this cycle but then alot do
dbol+a good pct to keep the gain after post cycle or am I way off and should just go for a test e cycle with dbol to kick start the cycle
dumbell press 40-45kg
barbell press 105kg
weight 65kg
height 5"8

all info is highly greatful thanks in advance

Dumbbell press 40-45kg in each hand? how many sets? 1x10? 1x15?

[Ghost823]

Thanks for the replys sorry I knew I'd miss somthing I'm 20years of age and 40kg in each hand 6-8 for 3sets then a drop to 30kg dbells for incline bench as I say my family gene is awfull With short family members I'm sure I'm at max height
I'll start off the morning with protein shake and carb mix
with a bowl or cereal
2nd meal cooked chicken 6oz breast with runner beans and sweet potato follow by 2 peanut butter sanies 3rd meal tuna and the same greens and potato I'll have that through out the day just change the meats as I fancy with protein bars for snacking 6days aweek
I do not know my fat% but I'm not carrying a belly if this helps 6pack abs with nice tricep and bicep definition with a nice defined chest as you can imagen from my dbell press

[Krio]

Thanks for the replys sorry I knew I'd miss somthing I'm 20years of age and 40kg in each hand 6-8 for 3sets then a drop to 30kg dbells for incline bench as I say my family gene is awfull
I'll start off the morning with protein shake and carb mix
with a bowl or cereal
2nd meal cooked chicken 6oz breast with runner beans and sweet potato follow by 2 peanut butter sanies 3rd meal tuna and the same greens and potato I'll have that through out the day just change the meats as I fancy with protein bars for snacking 6days aweek
I do not know my fat% but I'm not carrying a belly if this helps 6pack abs with nice tricep and bicep definition with a nice defined chest as you can imagen from my dbell press

Damn my genes are wors when I do dumbbell bench I put 40kg and do 5x10

[Ghost823]

What I ment by my family gene being bad is my mother being 4"8height and my farther being 5"8 I'm at my max height I think just forgot to write this bit haha

[rcb123]

mate im 5:8 its all good easy to like a tank it seems to me ya lifting ok ya might be like me untill i turned 25 is when the weight come on. stay away from the gear 4 now man it will come. just eat what eva carbs r good at ya age thats what i did at least for the next 2 years. but u do need the protein as well train hard lift heavy ya still young gear will not fix ya at this stage of ya life.

[Bertuzzi]

Thanks for the replys sorry I knew I'd miss somthing I'm 20years of age and 40kg in each hand 6-8 for 3sets then a drop to 30kg dbells for incline bench as I say my family gene is awfull With short family members I'm sure I'm at max height
I'll start off the morning with protein shake and carb mix
with a bowl or cereal
2nd meal cooked chicken 6oz breast with runner beans and sweet potato follow by 2 peanut butter sanies 3rd meal tuna and the same greens and potato I'll have that through out the day just change the meats as I fancy with protein bars for snacking 6days aweek
I do not know my fat% but I'm not carrying a belly if this helps 6pack abs with nice tricep and bicep definition with a nice defined chest as you can imagen from my dbell press

Since no one has said it yet.... Please let me be the first. You're too young. You're guessing at what your natural potential is based on your mother.... and other family members. Its a good start but not a sure thing. You need to train hard and diet for another 4 years, then if you feel you still need AAS go for it.

Please for your sake.... just wait...

[Ghost823]

Thanks alot for the replys Im going to take your advise and see what happens in the next 2years Many thanks

[sigman roid]

Good call, no need for steroids at your age

[PuzzyFalker]

Diet can be better than aas imo. Try this, get a big tub of weigh protien and drink a scoop between meals and right before bet. Its a cheap investement that works very well, better than aas at your age.

[Bertuzzi]

Thanks alot for the replys Im going to take your advise and see what happens in the next 2years Many thanks

Nice job, I hope you get the gains you want naturally and hey no harm in sticking around here and getting educated over the next few years, even if you never use.... it doesn't hurt to know.