First cycle

[DuragonZer0]

Greetings everyone, I would really like a second opinion, and don't know anyone to ask. Couldn't find exactly what I was looking for in the stickies, either.

I'm 20, couple months from 21, and looking at starting my first cycle; I've been training since I was 16.

I want to keep it 'all natural,' as they say, taking just testosterone and possibly growth hormone. Hormones that occur naturally, as oppose to Winstrol, which is horse testosterone for example.

Is it fine to just do a starting cycle of Supertest 400? Or do I really need something like nolvadex for an anti-estrogen, etc.

I don't expect anything new, but I've always heard to wait until after 24 to start juicing, I havent grown a cm in years. Is the risk primarily for persons using AAS improperly? Or would someone with a very well planned out cycle be just as likely to get screwed for life.

I'm just looking to do a short 2 month cycle, my first, to see how I do.

Last question: all I've been able to find are orals, if I go on a 2 month trial cycle of orals can this likely cause significant damage?

[Big]

winstrol is horse testosterone?
ummm...

height?
weight?
body fat%?

[bjpennnn]

omg is this a joke for someone who thinks they know a lot it appears you know nothing.

[JScondition]

Dude you just need to read the stickies.... which you obviously have not done yet. Spend about 2 weeks reading then come back with questions... that will help eliminate dumb questions that will make you a prime target for flaming.

[DuragonZer0]

I've read things for years, problem is theres no real organized publication.

I remember all the hubub back when prohormones were banned, Superdrol could be sold off but no longer manufactured and everyone was stocking up.

And I've read a few different starter cycles.

I've searched for book publications, but never been able to find one. Theres the book this site sells, but the reviews I read werent that great.

Winstrol is definitely the steroid they give to race horses, I've been told by people who use it that its horse test. Seemed logical.

I've never seen anything anywhere saying whether or not you'd need pct for a brief tapered cycle of test enanthate.

And, my stats are irrelevant. My questions were general, about the AAS.

Point out to me where in the stickies my questions, specifically, were answered.

Tell me a 500 page publication, I'll buy it and read it in 2 weeks. I'd read it twice.
But reading over scores of forum posts peicing together information is not that easy.

[Big]

you want steroid advice, but your stats are irrelevant?

good luck, you won't get any help here with that attitude.

[Dr Pepper]

If I take winny will I turn into a horse?

[lovbyts]

I used winny and am hung like a donkey now. LOL

Your stats are important. You are only reading what you want to read/hear. Yes this site is different than most and that is why most of us are here. It is not to promote the use of AAS but to advise on how to use AAS in a safe manner if someone is going to use them and to discourage those who should not.

You will ultimately do what you want to do but you also put yourself at high risk of serious side effects and long term health problems. You need to listed to the advise on why you should not and if/when you do how. Yes you always need PCT unless you are on HRT/TRT

[Lemonada8]

winnistrol is not horse testosterone, it is a modified testosterone hormone, which is aimed to provide less water retention and yet get strength... aka if u wanna get fast u take winni...

you need a PCT after all cycles, because it is restarting ur HPTA axis ( by addin synthenic test in ur system, your body stops producing it, seen as ur balls shrink) a PCT is a way to help minimize the effects that happen when u stop injecting urself and try to get ur own balls working again..

and yes you do need stats here, for ex i did 2x as much as a person smaller than me woudl do for a first cycle ( i did 100mg/ed, most people start with 50mg/ed), i used more because i am larger than the typical person who uses gear ( and im assuming ur not a body builder cuz u'd already have a good diet and workout down and wouldnt turn down the oppturnity to show off) im assuming that u have a lil small man complex, and want to be bigger...

and orals arent good on ur liver, they are very harsh and if u read some info available on this site, you need a basic test in ur system so u dont have super bad sides * this affects people all differently, some are good without, and some have horrid sides*

all in all, there is a lot of information available, and YOU have to be sure you know what ur doin cause its ur body... and cant really get much advice from a doctor (who would actually know about dosing according to body size)
quit bit*hin that u cant find info, you gotta look.. besides its all free it just takes effort