Libido issues

[louiscypher]

Well I did juice for a year and came off 8 weeks ago and my libido is in the toilet. I can hardly get an erection and when I do its not that good. I started my pct with nolva and clomid, it didn't do the trick so I got some hcg, I've been taking 1000 iu shots eod for almost 3 weeks. I've also ran nolva throughout. I realize this was against Swiftos advice but I'm in a work camp in northern Alberta and I only had 10 needles. My first shot of hcg was 2000iu's. I also could not get a hold of an AI. My nuts have grown considerably since I've been doing the hcg, but my beard is still soft and I feel like sh!t. Is it normal for the libido to be this bad 8 weeks after a cycle is done or am I in trouble here? Is the fact that my boys are getting big again a good sign? Oh yeah for that year of doing roids I didn't take any hcg and I suffered from significant testicular atrophy. Is there other factors in pct other than low test levels that affect libido? Would an AI help with this or something else. Please guys help me out my old lady thinks its her. Oh yeah it was so bad one night cialis didn't even work. Please help!

[TITANIUM]

Well I did juice for a year and came off 8 weeks ago and my libido is in the toilet. I can hardly get an erection and when I do its not that good. I started my pct with nolva and clomid, it didn't do the trick so I got some hcg, I've been taking 1000 iu shots eod for almost 3 weeks. I've also ran nolva throughout. I realize this was against Swiftos advice but I'm in a work camp in northern Alberta and I only had 10 needles. My first shot of hcg was 2000iu's. I also could not get a hold of an AI. My nuts have grown considerably since I've been doing the hcg, but my beard is still soft and I feel like sh!t. Is it normal for the libido to be this bad 8 weeks after a cycle is done or am I in trouble here? Is the fact that my boys are getting big again a good sign? Oh yeah for that year of doing roids I didn't take any hcg and I suffered from significant testicular atrophy. Is there other factors in pct other than low test levels that affect libido? Would an AI help with this or something else. Please guys help me out my old lady thinks its her. Oh yeah it was so bad one night cialis didn't even work. Please help!

I guess I will break this down:

Why did you do a year long cycle?
What did you take and at what dosages?
That was alot of HCG in one blow.So alot of that was waisted.(I know about your needle shortage issue).
You need blood work bro, and post the results on here.

You are going to be in the tank for awhile, so try to explain this to your spouse.

I do not have your stats, and there is alot I do not know about what you actually did.

BUT, I can tell you that you may have done permanent damage to your HPTA.

Your Natty test is really low, and THAT is the issue here.

Post your stats and what cycle and amounts you did and we can try to help you.

Lets cross our fingers X.

Best

T

[louiscypher]

Age 39
Weight 255
Height 6'4"
Bf 15%

Basically I was an idiot about my usage. I've done long cycles in the past (1 year +), primarily in my 20's and rebounded fine with no pct at all. I had no knowledge of proper pct then. Anyway I started this cycle with Deca and test udecanoate @250/400mg week for 12 weeks. Then I was on tren enanthate and test enanthate for 16 weeks @300/500mg week. Then I did test (adropen) and d bol for 16 weeks @825mg a week test and 40mg a day d bol. Then for the final 12 weeks I cruised on 275 mg of test a week. I knew I was in for it.I realise now I messed up bad. I was a member of this board almost the whole time but I thought this wouldn't happen to me because it never happened to me before, not like this. I know I was stupid....... I need help.... I return to my home in 3 days and I am going to have blood work done. I will post results.

[ricky189]

I joined this site just to message you bro. Your post is exactly what I'm going thru right down to cialis not working and the year long cycle....everything.

Just thought I'd message you....maybe we can help eachother out if we find something that works.

I just started PCT as follows.

500ius HCG and 1200ius Vit E for weeks 1 thru 3
25mgs of aromasin weeks 1 thru 4
20 mgs nolva weeks 1 thru 6

This shit is driving me insane and depressing so I know how you probably feel.

Oh....and I live in southern Alberta.....lol.

So if you find something that works let me know and I'll do the same.

good luck

[ricky189]

Louis....know exactly what you're going thru.....same problem and cause.

[louiscypher]

I joined this site just to message you bro. Your post is exactly what I'm going thru right down to cialis not working and the year long cycle....everything.

Just thought I'd message you....maybe we can help eachother out if we find something that works.

I just started PCT as follows.

500ius HCG and 1200ius Vit E for weeks 1 thru 3
25mgs of aromasin weeks 1 thru 4
20 mgs nolva weeks 1 thru 6

This shit is driving me insane and depressing so I know how you probably feel.

Oh....and I live in southern Alberta.....lol.

So if you find something that works let me know and I'll do the same.

good luck

I will definately keep you up to date0on my recovery and let you know what works. I'm also going for bloodwork soon. I'll post results. Hope everything goes well bro.

[ricky189]

I have been searching for a study I found on a forum somewhere. It was about a study done on 2 guys who were severly shut down after 2 year cycles or something really long like that.

They did some really aggressive PCT and one recovered after 1 round and the other recovered after 3 rounds. I believe it is the same protocol I described above but not sure. Definetly had HCG in it and nolva but not sure if it was aromasin or clomid.

If this rings a bell for anyone please post a link. I stumled upon it months ago and can't find it for the life of me.

[louiscypher]

I have been searching for a study I found on a forum somewhere. It was about a study done on 2 guys who were severly shut down after 2 year cycles or something really long like that.

They did some really aggressive PCT and one recovered after 1 round and the other recovered after 3 rounds. I believe it is the same protocol I described above but not sure. Definetly had HCG in it and nolva but not sure if it was aromasin or clomid.

If this rings a bell for anyone please post a link. I stumled upon it months ago and can't find it for the life of me.

I've read most endos will recomend 1000iu a day hcg for 10 days to reverse atrophy. I've also seen a protocall that recomends 2500 iu every other day for 2 weeks. With nolva and clomid running conquerently then for another 30 days afterwards.... There are so many differing opinions on dosages. I tend to think that 500ed is probably the way to go for us. Along with serms

[louiscypher]

I just had blood work this morning, I had a doctor agree to check my testosterone and prolactin levels. She says if she sees a problem there she'll send me to a urologist. I'll post results. Just an update on my condition: my nuts have returned to almost normal size. I have been getting sporatic morning wood, and cialis is working wonders again thank god. I think I could be good without it again but I don't want to dissapoint the woman. My stubble is still growing in thin and soft however. I'm still on nolva (my hcg is done) I will remain on the nolva for 14 more days. I will also go for blood work 14 days after my nolva cycle is done to see where I stand.

[ricky189]

Ive been having my nuts return almost to normal for part of the day then shrink again. But more consistently normalish size the last few days. Cialis is working better....thank god I can get 50 ug stuff for the price of 4 from the pharmacy....lol. I'd be broke other wise.

Think I need to quit smoking again....that would make a major diffeerence too.

[louiscypher]

Ive been having my nuts return almost to normal for part of the day then shrink again. But more consistently normalish size the last few days. Cialis is working better....thank god I can get 50 ug stuff for the price of 4 from the pharmacy....lol. I'd be broke other wise.

Think I need to quit smoking again....that would make a major diffeerence too.

Thats weird I felt my nuts would fuctuate in size to. I found they would be worse before bed. Well bro thats good news that your getting back on track. We might actually be lucky enough to have our HPTA's return to normal.

[crabmasta]

holly shit louis thats a hell of a cycle lol

[xantheus2010]

Well I did juice for a year and came off 8 weeks ago and my libido is in the toilet. I can hardly get an erection and when I do its not that good. I started my pct with nolva and clomid, it didn't do the trick so I got some hcg, I've been taking 1000 iu shots eod for almost 3 weeks. I've also ran nolva throughout. I realize this was against Swiftos advice but I'm in a work camp in northern Alberta and I only had 10 needles. My first shot of hcg was 2000iu's. I also could not get a hold of an AI. My nuts have grown considerably since I've been doing the hcg, but my beard is still soft and I feel like sh!t. Is it normal for the libido to be this bad 8 weeks after a cycle is done or am I in trouble here? Is the fact that my boys are getting big again a good sign? Oh yeah for that year of doing roids I didn't take any hcg and I suffered from significant testicular atrophy. Is there other factors in pct other than low test levels that affect libido? Would an AI help with this or something else. Please guys help me out my old lady thinks its her. Oh yeah it was so bad one night cialis didn't even work. Please help!

wow, i just posted similar to this in the PCT section of the forum.... I have severe low levels of testosterone as well from long term use with no PCT... 36, 235, 6',...


2 months ago, urologist sent me to endocrinologist... ultimately, it seems as if the endo doc is the "end all be all".... He realized how low my numbers were and put me on enanthate 250/week to jump start my testosterone again.... but little did he know i was going to be starting another cycle, but this time I chose to do PRIMO/ANAVAR and HGH.., while keeping my weekly 250/enanthate shot from the doc....and also 1mg arimidex 2x/week....

I was told this was a woman's cycle and would be low toxicity to my body.... , but I'm 8 weeks in now and about to come to an end....... I am HOWEVER going to stay on the HGH for another 2 months or so...

I put on some good gains, lost fat from the high estrogen/low test levels in my body and gained significant strength back...., but my balls are still light and small!! and my sex drive is OK at best.... better than NON-existent..... I do get morning wood, but no urges like I normally would during a cycle....

here's my question....... I am going to end soon and want to see if I can get my axis working again naturally in my body, producing testosterone on it's own....... should I implement PCT?? what should I implement, how much and when should I start???

It seems as if my endo doc and family doc are convinced that I may need trt for the rest of my life...!! does this mean my testes won't ever return to normal?? And my friggin' hair keeps falling out gradually down the middle, while I'm also taking propecia!!! uggh!!

any help is greatly appreciated...... (and I thought I was the only one going through this shit)...

thanks again.....

[ricky189]

I decided to up HCG to 750ius ed for the last week of PCT. My nuts are killing me but bigger than I'm used to. And this may be too much info but hard most the day....lol.

Im using the AR protocol posted as above with the 750 iu modification.

[louiscypher]

I decided to up HCG to 750ius ed for the last week of PCT. My nuts are killing me but bigger than I'm used to. And this may be too much info but hard most the day....lol.

Im using the AR protocol posted as above with the 750 iu modification.

That's good news bro, your better off than me now! What a scare man! I really thought I was screwed!

[louiscypher]

wow, i just posted similar to this in the PCT section of the forum.... I have severe low levels of testosterone as well from long term use with no PCT... 36, 235, 6',...


2 months ago, urologist sent me to endocrinologist... ultimately, it seems as if the endo doc is the "end all be all".... He realized how low my numbers were and put me on enanthate 250/week to jump start my testosterone again.... but little did he know i was going to be starting another cycle, but this time I chose to do PRIMO/ANAVAR and HGH.., while keeping my weekly 250/enanthate shot from the doc....and also 1mg arimidex 2x/week....

I was told this was a woman's cycle and would be low toxicity to my body.... , but I'm 8 weeks in now and about to come to an end....... I am HOWEVER going to stay on the HGH for another 2 months or so...

I put on some good gains, lost fat from the high estrogen/low test levels in my body and gained significant strength back...., but my balls are still light and small!! and my sex drive is OK at best.... better than NON-existent..... I do get morning wood, but no urges like I normally would during a cycle....

here's my question....... I am going to end soon and want to see if I can get my axis working again naturally in my body, producing testosterone on it's own....... should I implement PCT?? what should I implement, how much and when should I start???

It seems as if my endo doc and family doc are convinced that I may need trt for the rest of my life...!! does this mean my testes won't ever return to normal?? And my friggin' hair keeps falling out gradually down the middle, while I'm also taking propecia!!! uggh!!

any help is greatly appreciated...... (and I thought I was the only one going through this shit)...

thanks again.....

Bro I strongly recommend you get advice from a vet like Swifto. Basically, your definately going to want to get your hands on about 15,000 iu's of hcg and some nolva, an AI, and clomid. Look to the vets for advice on dosages. Good luck.

[louiscypher]

holly shit louis thats a hell of a cycle lol

Yea bro I'm an old dog who needs to learn new tricks. I messed up bad, failed to take the info on this site seriously enough and paid the price. In the future I will be much smarter and limit my cycles to 8 - 12 weeks max with proper hcg and pct protocols. Peace.

[ricky189]

Just read on another forum that IGF1-LR3 might be of help if regular PCT protocol doesn't work. Aparently HCG and IGF work well together....any comments or experience?

[louiscypher]

I dunno Ricky, igf would definateley help during pct for size and strength. I've read it does help with pct as well but I don't know maybey its just anecdotal.

[ricky189]

Well I have some IGF1LR3 on the way. Should be here monday or tuesday. Going to see how 20mcg ed works for me. It is a low start but I want to start low instead of high cuz I think I will have to always raise it over time. Comes with acetic acid and supposedly it works more effectively than in BA water so the lower dose might work in AA where it wouldn't in BAW.

Also got pt-141 comming with it. I forget how it works but it is different than cialis or other stuff....works on your brain to increase sex drive somehow...and works for some people when cialis etc hasn't. Maybe both togetrher will be deadly! lol

I also quit smoking yesterday and that makes a huge difference with the libido and random wood. Stupid me has quit countless times and I always feel better then get stressed/pissed off/wanna kill someone so I start smoking.

I really like everything I have read on IGF. It is much more affordable now too. My plan is to cycle it by it self long term. either 4/4, 5/5, or 6/6(weeks on/weeks off)

[louiscypher]

That's funny I ordered some iPT 141 to lol. I'm still in camp but I'll post results in 2 weeks... Bloods as well. Let me know how the igf works out...

[ricky189]

Also trying to find dostinex/cabaser. No one seems to have it and it seems in high demand so if you can get some of that do it. I'm gonna see if I can feed my doc a line of shit and get some.

[louiscypher]

Also trying to find dostinex/cabaser. No one seems to have it and it seems in high demand so if you can get some of that do it. I'm gonna see if I can feed my doc a line of shit and get some.

ar-r has caber, no? I ordered clen and iPT 141 from them they are solid. Try this under research chems: Liquid Cab 0.5mg/mL.

[ricky189]

I would love to order from them but I need to order Canadian domestic. I have never had any luck with getting anything through customs.

[louiscypher]

I would love to order from them but I need to order Canadian domestic. I have never had any luck with getting anything through customs.

Hey did you get my PM Ricky?

[SaTyR]

louis, holy shit that cycle is insane. I think you really did some damage, and no matter what, you should just go see a urologist anyway and I mean right now.

[ricky189]

No.....I don't think Ive been on here long enough to get pms or something cuz I can't find an option for it and when I click my own name it says I cant access this page.

But its driving me nuts wondering what you pmed me....lol

[ricky189]

If I cant pm yet how an I give you my email. I dont think Ican post it here.

Do you have th email notifc ation of new post in this thread? If I post it then you'd get an email notification of my post.....then you'd have it. Then I can edit my post and delete my email right away so its not posted on the forum.

But I dont want to break rules and get kicked off the site either.

[louiscypher]

louis, holy shit that cycle is insane. I think you really did some damage, and no matter what, you should just go see a urologist anyway and I mean right now.

I'll see what my bloods are first. If the test is as low as I think it is I'll gat a referal to a urologist. I'll post results in 12 days.

[louiscypher]

If I cant pm yet how an I give you my email. I dont think Ican post it here.

Do you have th email notifc ation of new post in this thread? If I post it then you'd get an email notification of my post.....then you'd have it. Then I can edit my post and delete my email right away so its not posted on the forum.

But I dont want to break rules and get kicked off the site either.

Well I couldn't pm you it said I could send you a message via e mail though. That's what I tried. I wonder if you can input your e mail into your profile somehow and it would work.

[ricky189]

Cant figure it out

[louiscypher]

Cool, got it bro thx.

[serratus]

aas and the sausaga malfunction?

[louiscypher]

aas and the sausaga malfunction?

My "sausaga" didn't malfunction till after my aas use.

[serratus]

My "sausaga" didn't malfunction till after my aas use.

so you saying no to use aas if u want 2 get hard?

[louiscypher]

so you saying no to use aas if u want 2 get hard?

If you do testosterone you won't have a problem with getting hard. Its after you stop doing it that you have trouble because your body stops producing its own and takes time to recover, sometimes as long as a year. That is why a proper PCT protocol must be used so your natural testosterone production starts up again as fast as possible.

[louiscypher]

Well I just got back from the doctor and have my testosterone level as of 3 weeks ago. It was 13ng/dl. Apparently that is normal, the range at the lab it was checked at is 5.3 - 21 ng/dl I guess. For a 39 year old is this normal? Anyone have any thoughts?

[louiscypher]

Sorry that level must be 13 nmol/L. If it was ng/dl I don't think that would be considered normal.