Oh God here goes White on Fedor loss.

[yannick35]

Well i knew this was cumming:

UFC president Dana White was one of many who watched as Fedor suffered his first defeat in ten years to the heavily decorated Brazillian Jiu-Jistu practitioner Fabricio Werdum. White who has been very vocal on his thoughts of the Russian heavyweight claimed he felt vindicated while on tour for UFC 116.

“I’ve been saying it for years, Fedor is not a top 10 heavyweight. He just got beat by a guy who couldn’t cut it in the UFC in the first round. There’s at least 10 fighters in the UFC right now who would beat Fedor even worse.”

Despite the harsh criticism White stated he would still be willing to offer the former WAMMA champion a new contract if he wishes to sign on with the UFC.

“Tell you what, if he wants to sign with the UFC now, the previous contract where I offered him an insane amount of money is off the table. I’ll give him a new contract, 20K to show and 20K to win. If he doesn’t accept it, too bad.”


Now as for Fabricio Werdum not cutting it in UFC, he got some pertty good fights, really don't know why the hell he was cut out of the UFC. You cannot take away anything from him he is one great athlete.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Dana is the man!

[AlphaGenetics]

Well i knew this was cumming:

UFC president Dana White was one of many who watched as Fedor suffered his first defeat in ten years to the heavily decorated Brazillian Jiu-Jistu practitioner Fabricio Werdum. White who has been very vocal on his thoughts of the Russian heavyweight claimed he felt vindicated while on tour for UFC 116.

“I’ve been saying it for years, Fedor is not a top 10 heavyweight. He just got beat by a guy who couldn’t cut it in the UFC in the first round. There’s at least 10 fighters in the UFC right now who would beat Fedor even worse.”

Despite the harsh criticism White stated he would still be willing to offer the former WAMMA champion a new contract if he wishes to sign on with the UFC.

“Tell you what, if he wants to sign with the UFC now, the previous contract where I offered him an insane amount of money is off the table. I’ll give him a new contract, 20K to show and 20K to win. If he doesn’t accept it, too bad.”


Now as for Fabricio Werdum not cutting it in UFC, he got some pertty good fights, really don't know why the hell he was cut out of the UFC. You cannot take away anything from him he is one great athlete.

fvk dana white that fat, bald, soft punk pvssy, marshmellow pos. Fedor must of fvked his momma.

[AlphaGenetics]

Dana is the man!

That comment just got you dropped from my friends list. lol

[Knockout_Power]

well, while we would love to see Fedor take a run at the UFC's heavyweights, the actually nuthuggin UFC fans (not dedicated ones, just the ones who have adopted it as their favorite sport cause its now a popular trend) agree with Dana. And in a way, I do as well... if you are undefeated, Dana could make hundreds of Millions on a first UFC fight, but now, on a business decision, he needs to calculate what a fighter who has just lost is worth in his first fight in UFC. If Fedor was the man we think he is, he would prove himself @ 20K per fight, win 3 or 4, get a title shot and then make 6 fig's and prove he is worth it.

Just my $.02

[redz]

I always thought Fedor was over rated and never in great shape. I was glad to see him lose. He has almost lost in alot of fights but some how lands bombs even when he is hurt. He is a great fighter still though. Odds on that fight were 8-1 someone must have made some cash!

[Fetch]

-shrug- It is obviously political. I believe Dana knows Fedor is not likely to sign with the UFC anyway, and so is talking shit about him. Dana has never been known for his professionalism. Dana has said plenty of times that in MMA, anything can happen.

I will agree that Fedor is a bit overrated by many, but he has earned a lot of respect because of his prodigious win streak. Prior to this, his only loss ever came from a fluke cut.

[graeme87]

-shrug- It is obviously political. I believe Dana knows Fedor is not likely to sign with the UFC anyway, and so is talking shit about him. Dana has never been known for his professionalism. Dana has said plenty of times that in MMA, anything can happen.

I will agree that Fedor is a bit overrated by many, but he has earned a lot of respect because of his prodigious win streak. Prior to this, his only loss ever came from a fluke cut.

I totally agree!

I hope there is a rematch soon and Fedor smashes Werdum. I think Fedor underestimated Werdum's submission skills or overestimated his own ability either way I think it was carelessness and don't see it happening again.

Fedor will have to fight someone else before he gets a shot at Werdum again and if Werdum looses to Overeem Fedor will also have to beat him to restore his credibility so we are talking 2-3 fights and he could be back on top.

[yannick35]

Maybe he just lost if will to fight who knows, he wanted a quick win against Werdum and he jumped right onto is guard, at some point he could have stepped out, but he just stayed there and gave Werdum the armbar + the triangle chock.

That actually gets me thinking after all theses years of competing maybe he just doesn't want to compete anymore, might be the main reason why he never went to UFC, he knew that guys like Brock and Carwin would eat him up.

[collar]

perhaps, could me many different things and we can sit here and speculate.

But I have to say standing he looked very sharp and damn quick.

[The Gladiator 911]

The other guy just got lucky, end off. It was annoying the way he celebrated, although he won, its not like he demolished Fedor, he should of shuck his hand and said ''UNLUCKY MATE''. The guy got him in a flukey triangle, basically the guy didnt win the fight, he just survived.

~Fedor is over rated, but his loss was not because he was out classed, it was because he got complacient.

[quarry206]

The other guy just got lucky, end off. It was annoying the way he celebrated, although he won, its not like he demolished Fedor, he should of shuck his hand and said ''UNLUCKY MATE''. The guy got him in a flukey triangle, basically the guy didnt win the fight, he just survived.

~Fedor is over rated, but his loss was not because he was out classed, it was because he got complacient.

I agree, I don't know why everybody has run to say this proves him being only hype. when we think of other fights as great and they have 4-7 loss's. with this being Fedor's first lose ever. (the doctor stoppage should be called just that)

ever great fighter on the top of lists have a loss to a avg or even in some cases shitty fighter. So Fedors lose should not be looked at some horrible event.

Fedor still has beatin 5 UFC heavy weight champs 7 different times. . Though I think carwin will beat Lesnar, and IMO Carwin could take Fedor, just because Fedor comes from maybe an older generation of fighters does not mean he is shitty..

[danimal79]

well, while we would love to see Fedor take a run at the UFC's heavyweights, the actually nuthuggin UFC fans (not dedicated ones, just the ones who have adopted it as their favorite sport cause its now a popular trend) agree with Dana. And in a way, I do as well... if you are undefeated, Dana could make hundreds of Millions on a first UFC fight, but now, on a business decision, he needs to calculate what a fighter who has just lost is worth in his first fight in UFC. If Fedor was the man we think he is, he would prove himself @ 20K per fight, win 3 or 4, get a title shot and then make 6 fig's and prove he is worth it.

Just my $.02

edit: read the post wrong. agreed.

[Jitsu player]

To be fair to some degree I agree with Dana, Fedor was offered stupid money to fight in the UFC but he knew he'd get his arse handed to him be messers Brock/Carwin/Cain/Dos Santos and probably a few more (although I think he still easy makes the top 10) so he tried to preserve his status as best heavyweight/pound for pound fighter (yeah right! like he has more of a cliam to that title than Silva....or GSP for that matter)

I like Werdum but he did get smashed by Dos Santos in under 90 seconds so Dana cut him, there are plenty decent heavyweights around to take his place and lets face it Werdum was never going to get a title shot in the UFC let alone win it....Going to Strikefarce is big fish small pond stuff although Overeems is the real deal

[AlphaGenetics]

Dana's like an immatour teenage girl. He plays fourth grade manipulation games and trys to suck in anybody that will buy his shvt. He is just another one of the millions of couch potatoe warriors that talk shvt about someone he could never be, but is in a position of power so we have to hear his garbage. IMO Fedor gave up his right to be called the best in the world when he refused to fight in the ufc, but still is one of the most exciting heavyweights to watch in the world.

[RonCarlston]

Never been entirely sure what to think of dana. it's gotten to the point where i agree with him half the time and think hes being a dick the other half

this is one area where i disagree. fedor being caught in a triangle doesn't make his winning spree any less impressive to me

[shaihulud7]

Dana is playing the game. He talks shit because he wants to discredits any organizations and fighters that competes with the UFC. I do not like the guy, he is all about cheap shots and he under pays most of his fighters but he is good for the bottom line of the UFC.

His job is to make money and eliminate the competition. If Fedor was fighting in the UFC I bet u he would shout to who ever wants to know that Fedor was the best in the world.

I think Dana did a great job for the UFC and MMA in general but now I think is work is counter productive for the sport (not for the UFC). By underpaying the fighters he limits the talent pool and his refusal to co-promote events stop the sport. We don't have an undisputed champion and we don't have mega fights between the title holders of different organization which is bad for the promotion of the sport and our entertainment. His greediness and the greediness of ZUFA is a serious problem.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

lol at anyone hating on dana white. Would you honestly rather have some monotone play by the rules commissioner like david stern or roger goodell? hell no I want a guy running the show who isn't afraid to call people pussies and tells it like it is

[zimmy]

I agree, I don't know why everybody has run to say this proves him being only hype. when we think of other fights as great and they have 4-7 loss's. with this being Fedor's first lose ever. (the doctor stoppage should be called just that)

ever great fighter on the top of lists have a loss to a avg or even in some cases shitty fighter. So Fedors lose should not be looked at some horrible event.

Fedor still has beatin 5 UFC heavy weight champs 7 different times. . Though I think carwin will beat Lesnar, and IMO Carwin could take Fedor, just because Fedor comes from maybe an older generation of fighters does not mean he is shitty..

lucky...lol what is with people who think that submissions have anything to do with luck.

[BgMc31]

I don't think anyone truly believes Fedor sucks. IMO, he's one of the greatest of all time, but he's been fighting lesser competition for quite some time now. And as with any athlete you do get used to a certain level of competition. Look at some of the old time greats (I'm referring to boxing), they were fed tomato cans late in their careers and when it was time to step up, they got shocked.

Fedor will be back, but he's lost his luster and now he's gotta prove that he is the greatest. His next couple fights will be a true testament to the man's will.

[Hunter]

I don't think anyone truly believes Fedor sucks. IMO, he's one of the greatest of all time, but he's been fighting lesser competition for quite some time now. And as with any athlete you do get used to a certain level of competition. Look at some of the old time greats (I'm referring to boxing), they were fed tomato cans late in their careers and when it was time to step up, they got shocked.

Fedor will be back, but he's lost his luster and now he's gotta prove that he is the greatest. His next couple fights will be a true testament to the man's will.

Very well said.

[bodybuilder]

Agree

[ScotchGuard02]

Win, lose or draw Fedor is a class act. Can't say the same about White. If Fedor was all about the money he would have taken White's offer. I don't think that's where his head's at. One loss in a career is a data point. Every speculation is like a line drawn through that point. There are an infinite lines that can be drawn through a single point. The answer will come in the next fight. If he wins, then the loss could have been a fluke. If he wins two or three more times, he could be back on top. This loss was a fluke.

[bodybuilder]

I belive in order for fador to be labeled as a great he has to fight in the ufc. Cause if he doesnt then all he is doing is fighting those whom did not make it in the ufc, in other words the lossers. IMO the only reall good hevyweight outside of the ufc is Alistair Overeem and he has yet to fight him. Dont get me wrong vador is a bad mf but if he keeps fighting the ufc leftovers he aint gana prove anything.

[kaptainkeezy04]

I believe the reason Fedor lost is because he was trying to make a statement the way he did against Big Nog, by beating a BJJ blackbelt in his guard. He may have felt that he had to prove something, after people were talking shit because brett rogers took him to the 2nd round. So he might have been telling himself that if he beat Werdum in the guard, it would be making a big statement. Dana White sure did offer him a lot of money for a guy that hadn't fought anyone in 5 years. 30 million for 6 fights? Is taht what you offer a guy who is washed up and could be beat by ten guys in your organization? NObody is buying Dana White's bullshit.

[kaptainkeezy04]

lol at anyone hating on dana white. Would you honestly rather have some monotone play by the rules commissioner like david stern or roger goodell? hell no I want a guy running the show who isn't afraid to call people pussies and tells it like it is

The thing is that he doesn't tell it like it is. He promised Matt Lindland a shot at Rich Franklin after he had been beating everyone in the middleweight division, and then he started putting Lindland on the prelims, because he knew that lanky country boy Matt Lindland would whoop the shit out of pretty boy Rich Franklin, and then he fired Lindland for wearing a t-shirt with an online betting company that wasn't UFC approved. Many other fighters were wearing the same shirt, including Randy Couture.

[bodybuilder]

Is that what he offered fador 30 mill. WOW what the hell why didn't he take it.

[kaptainkeezy04]

Is that what he offered fador 30 mill. WOW what the hell why didn't he take it.

because strike force offered co-promotion with fedor's company M-1 Global, and that makes Fedor a lot more money.

[bodybuilder]

Fador imo should go down to 205 if he ever goes to the ufc. If he doesnt he will not last very long.

[Hawse]

I think Dana is just sore about him not accepting his offer to begin with.

[timjitsu]

Dana white is a first class douche bag. I've trained with werdum a couple of times in HB before he started training for that fight and I admit he trained his ass off for that fight. And he's a world class bjj fighter. But he got lucky, plain and simple. Dana is only trying to make it seem like only the best fighters are in the UFC. When in reality its only a handful. Fedor is still the best all around fighter IMO even though he lost. There's a saying I tell people ii train with (especially the new guys) "even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time" and that's exactly what happened.

[timjitsu]

I always thought Fedor was over rated and never in great shape. I was glad to see him lose. He has almost lost in alot of fights but some how lands bombs even when he is hurt. He is a great fighter still though. Odds on that fight were 8-1 someone must have made some cash!

Do you even know what you're talking about?! Not in shape? Just cuz he has some pudge doesn't mean he's not in shape. Aside from GSP Fedors training is probably the most intensive. Primitive... but extremely intense.

[Peace Missile]

lol....

[bigpapabuff]

Dana just wants to be the one making the money off of him, he wants him in UFC.

[gladmax]

Fedor is still great one loss or not.