Anavar Cycle - Three Weeks Out - Advice?

[boundup]

Age: 27
Height: 5' 9"
Weight: 168lbs
Body Fat: 10%

History

I have been weight training since I was 22 years old. I started at 125lbs and through hard work and dedication I was able to max out at 165 @ 8% BF. The weight went on slowly, but it went on with diet adjustments and proper rest. About 2.5 years ago I was hospitalized due to a fierce battle with acid reflux, depression (both parents died) and the flu; I was 115lbs when I checked out. Again, with fierce determination, I was able to climb back up to where I am now.

My intent with the cycle is to solidify my current platform. I am comfortable with my size, and while additional lean mass would be nice, I am looking for more strength and definition. Additionally, I find that my stomach and lower back fat nearly impossible to keep under control. Based on my research, it appears that Anavar will help support me in this.

Cycle

I am intending on running the following assuming a Monday next week start time.

Pre-Cycle Week One: De-load from training.
Pre-Cycle Week Two - Three: OFF. Maintain clean diet + blood work + 2 x deep tissue massages each week (these are a blessing).
Cycle Week One: 50mg Anavar split at 3:00AM & 1PM. Start of one week vacation.
Cycle Week Two: 60mg Anavar split at 5AM & 3PM. Start supplementing DTHC.
Cycle Week Three - Six: 75mg split at 5AM & 3PM. Remain on DTHC.

PCT - Three Weeks: Nolvadex 40mg/20mg/20mg

I have considered pinning a low amount of Test, but truth be told, after years and years of needles, it is a huge hesitation for me. However, I also understand you only get one shot.

I also wanted to point out that while nothing is ever discreet, but hope is that this cycle will allow me to gradually build up with little to no attention; hence why I am not looking to get too big. I am not opposed to different ideas, so let me have it.

[sixey]

looks pretty solid man, i have been looking into VAR only cycles for awhile and there are plenty of people who see great results! you might want to consider throwing in some proviron during the cycle, will increase your free test, help libido, and make pct easier (must credit BJJ for this idea haha)

what are you doing as far as liver support?

[boundup]

looks pretty solid man, i have been looking into VAR only cycles for awhile and there are plenty of people who see great results! you might want to consider throwing in some proviron during the cycle, will increase your free test, help libido, and make pct easier (must credit BJJ for this idea haha)

what are you doing as far as liver support?

I had not dove too much into liver support to be honest - figured it was pretty easy to figure out? That aside, I did want to run some type of test enhancer during cycle to keep the boys in check, but I figured the Diesel Test Hardcore I would start on week three should be OK since it will carry through the PCT.

Thoughts?

[40plusnewbie]

Have you thoroughly researched the sides/potential sides of var?

I have done 1 cycle, a var only cycle. I was obese and very pleased with the results. My main goal was fat loss, I had plateaued, if you will, at 250lbs. for around 6 months, after making dietary changes that brought me down there from 295lbs. I think my cycle was around 8 or so weeks and brought me to a low of 217, rounded out at 220lbs with some cardio and a spotty diet and only intermittent weight lifting. I decided to do the cycle after researching var and fat loss around the mid section for middle age guys. My cholesterol level was also extremely excellent (big risk for var is rising cholesterol) and low normal blood pressure (another risk of var). I wasn't worried about hair loss as that is not in my genes. Is the fat loss in the area's you speak of really hit by var at your age and with your bf%? I really have no idea, I was confident it would hit those area's in me but like I said I had a much higher bf% than you and was also older.

I was planning my 2nd cycle (test prop and var) but decided to run a 2nd var only cycle (my cholesterol readings are still all excellent and my blood pressure is even lower, as well as fat content, and both my eating and exercise/lifting are more consistent as well). I made this decision after doing some research into building tendon strength (var helps with this, as do some other steroids, test hurts this, at least short term on cycle according to some recent stuff I have read). One of my primary shorter term objectives is to develop much more strength in my hands and forearms and I do workouts that focus on tendon/ligaments in the hands and forearms in addition to forearm muscles, as well as overall body muscles.

The liver support is important, very important. Var isn't the worst thing for your liver I don't think, but it is still hepatoxic. No reason to cause damage to your liver, you only have one of them my friend.

Why only 6 week cycle? pills instead of powder?

Also, why only 2 doses per day rather than 3 or 4 evenly split up doses?

[boundup]

Have you thoroughly researched the sides/potential sides of var?

I have done 1 cycle, a var only cycle. I was obese and very pleased with the results. My main goal was fat loss, I had plateaued, if you will, at 250lbs. for around 6 months, after making dietary changes that brought me down there from 295lbs. I think my cycle was around 8 or so weeks and brought me to a low of 217, rounded out at 220lbs with some cardio and a spotty diet and only intermittent weight lifting. I decided to do the cycle after researching var and fat loss around the mid section for middle age guys. My cholesterol level was also extremely excellent (big risk for var is rising cholesterol) and low normal blood pressure (another risk of var). I wasn't worried about hair loss as that is not in my genes. Is the fat loss in the area's you speak of really hit by var at your age and with your bf%? I really have no idea, I was confident it would hit those area's in me but like I said I had a much higher bf% than you and was also older.

I was planning my 2nd cycle (test prop and var) but decided to run a 2nd var only cycle (my cholesterol readings are still all excellent and my blood pressure is even lower, as well as fat content, and both my eating and exercise/lifting are more consistent as well). I made this decision after doing some research into building tendon strength (var helps with this, as do some other steroids, test hurts this, at least short term on cycle according to some recent stuff I have read). One of my primary shorter term objectives is to develop much more strength in my hands and forearms and I do workouts that focus on tendon/ligaments in the hands and forearms in addition to forearm muscles, as well as overall body muscles.

The liver support is important, very important. Var isn't the worst thing for your liver I don't think, but it is still hepatoxic. No reason to cause damage to your liver, you only have one of them my friend.

Why only 6 week cycle? pills instead of powder?

Also, why only 2 doses per day rather than 3 or 4 evenly split up doses?

All great questions...

I chose a six week cycle since it seems to be a great balance between results and reducing the risks of sides. While sad and funny at the same time, the effects in the lower region tend to be drastically less in the 4-6 week cycle range than the 8-10 week range. My girlfriend and I have a joke of a sex life, and while she is clear in her stance that I am to never do this, I need to hide that fact. Her best friend is a nurse who specializes in sports medicine and I suspect in I was showing issues down there, it would be cause for concern. It's funny, because we never have sex so I am less inclined to see it as a problem but when the Anavar changes my physique, she might be more inclined? Funny and sad, no?

Additionally, I also have the split doses as a result of recovery time overnight with respect to the boys. However, you raise an interesting point as all the topics I have seen divide this idea into three different camps. One focusing on early/mid-day doses with recovery overnight, three split during the day due to half-life, and the last group says do whatever.

I know the Anavar will target the areas where I stand to lose the most fat. In fact, all the research targets the exact areas where the fat is. That being said, it is lower on the priority list in comparison to the strength gains, muscle hardness and potential for addition lean body mass.

I find it interesting that you point out the tendon/ligaments. I had not considered this and it didn't appear in my research throughout these forums and others. I will say that it has piqued my interest.

What liver support did you run while on cycle?

As far as the pill vs powder... all I have access to? /shrug

[fossilfuel7]

I'll be running an Anavar only cycle as well here shortly as soon as I get my pct ordered.

I'll be running 50mgED.

I see you are going to run Nolva...I am leaning towards Torem because of light sides supposedly compared to Nolva and Clomid.

What made you choose Nolva?...just curious because I am inexperienced with pct.

[40plusnewbie]

I find it interesting that you point out the tendon/ligaments. I had not considered this and it didn't appear in my research throughout these forums and others. I will say that it has piqued my interest.

What liver support did you run while on cycle?

As far as the pill vs powder... all I have access to? /shrug

The tendon issue, someone pointed me in the direction I posted as part of my regular workout routine focuses on finger/hand/wrist/forearm strength and on my non-dominant hand I episodically get tendinitis, I specifically notice effects on the 3rd finger and pinky in that hand. My dr's advice is less weight/more reps after full healing. I don't fully fully follow that advice, trying to keep progress up on my non-dominant hand with my dominant hand. Someone in the injury/recovery forum pointed me to some info when I asked about any supplements/chemicals/medicines/etc, anything that helps with tendon and/or ligament strength.

Here is the thread I was pointed to, the last post in particular has a lot of interesting info, albeit without research study sites to back up the info.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=433034

For liver support I ordered milk thistle by the pound and chewed copious amounts of it. There was a short period when I didn't and noticed my urine turned a very bright yellow that didn't disperse equally into the toilet water, but rather looked as if I had poured some die in there that formed kind of a liquid trail in the water, slowly dispersing into the toilet water. I assumed this was the result of the var taxing my liver, and it stopped when I went back to chewing and swallowing lots of milk thistle.

Although, since that time, someone has pointed out to me that Liv52 is supposed to be far superior for liver support.

[sixey]

yes Liv52 is some quality stuff, the brand that makes (made) liv52, Himalaya now has a new updated version of liv52, its the same formula but spiced up a little, called "livercare". also might want to consider some NAC (n-acetylcystine) as its a great liver protectant and alot of people use it and swear buy it.

i have no idea "how toxic" VAR is to the liver, but for livercare, NAC, and even some SAMe your only looking at about $50 which will last you the entire cycle and then some, well worth it for yoour liver and peace of mind