1st cycle started 2 days ago....Sus/Deca/Drol..talk to me

[tappeast]

31
5'8
170

I am prepared for you guys to tee off on me with taking gear in general (my limited weight), taking Deca & drol together (gyno cycle) and whatever other blasts you may have for me.

But...at least let me know what I might expect...gains wise and any other good info.

PROLLY A WEAK CYCLE TOO....in many peoples eyes...I am prepared

Here it is...

Sust 250mg 10wks
Deca 300mg 10wks
Drol 25mg 1st week...prolly 50 following 3wks

Nolva is in the mail...

I'm really just wanting to get some massive strength gains and some extra weight...hopefully get to about 180-185 to stay...Not wanting to get much bigger is the reason my doses may seem low.

NOW BLAST....but give me some helpful info if possible

[HawaiianPride.]

Wouldn't start anything until that Nolva comes in the mail and too many compounds for a beginner. You got any other Serms lined up or just Nolva?

[tappeast]

already started....and, reluctantly my answer is no on the Serms. Figured i'd be the @sshole that decided to get help from that once i needed it. Horrible answer I understand. But, I ain't got time to be a beginner. Looking to add some weight and strength quick. Would love to hold onto some of the weight gained too.

[HawaiianPride.]

You ain't got time to be a beginner? You are a beginner in any which way you look at it. You don't even know what your dealing with man. Loading up on a bunch of compounds just to throw on some weight ain't the right mindset. You won't be able to pinpoint what causes an ill side effect if one were to occur since your loading yourself up full of junk. The culprit could be any one of those 3 and you wouldn't know which to drop.

So you started the cycle without PCT on hand, your running 1 SERM for a 3 compound cycle that includes a 19nor, and your running the Sust on a TRT dosage.

Either cycle right, or don't cycle at all.

[tappeast]

so...i'm not stopping, what do you suggest. please.

[HawaiianPride.]

Toss the Deca, get another SERM, research this website and understand what a novice cycle looks like.

[313frog]

have you started yet?

[tappeast]

Toss the Deca, get another SERM, research this website and understand what a novice cycle looks like.

no thanks hard@ss


and yes...i have started to the other poster...what do you got for me

[tappeast]

f*cking research this website....man, whatever. EVERYONE on here says that. I UNDERSTAND. But, I don't have time to research to the extent that you guys will see me as an equal AAS theologist.

I'm tired of that research line. I have read through this website...and its endless..with A MILLION different opinions. eff that.

[HawaiianPride.]

Good luck on your cycle. If worst comes to worst prolactin or some type of ERSE pops up, Nolva doesn't show, along with excessive water and you have absolutely nothing to treat it with.

If you have time to be an immature little prick in this thread towards me then you have time to take 5 minutes out of your pathetic life to see what a real cycle looks like.

Later.

[tappeast]

immature little prick, pathetic life???..YEAH RIGHT! I say it all the time...Its GREAT to be me!

Once again.....I understand YOU KNOW MORE THAN ME "ABOUT THIS"

sooo.....I'll try again....with what i'm taking and not dropping...what do you suggest? dosage wise....Serms...build me a cycle "around mine" like or not...what kind of help can you offer?

thank you

[tappeast]

it would be awesome if you could honestly take the time out of your awesome life in the middle of the night to answer me this....

save me the research line....were both online....break it down for me...please.

thanks again

[HawaiianPride.]

I already "broke it down" for you. But it was something you didn't want to hear. This shit happens to 90% of the guys here asking for steroid advice. I've been in this game for a while, I've helped and been rejected help in numerous forums. If it's something that you guys aren't down with, you reject it.

I'll break it down even further for you.

A basic cycle should consist of Test (kicker is optional)
10-12 weeks 350-500mg PW
1-4 drol 25-50mg ED
PCT begins when half life is up
Blood work a month after PCT
From here you've tested the waters, now you can expand your horizon with further compounds.

It doesn't get any simpler than that.

[tappeast]

You're a BEAST. Now were talking. See, you can help out someone who is actually on cycle and appreciates your knowledge. Thank you.

Here's the deal tho...

dropping the Deca....emmm....No. I have reason to want the Deca for "collagen synthesis" and to keep my joints lubed during my training. I'm also aware that Test depleats and makes your tendons very fragile while on cycle. The Deca is for a reason, to counter that. I am not a bodybuilder.

I know several who are on this very cycle and have done just fine with it. At least 1 is a member of this board. I am just taking my time...to do some "research" of my own and ask opinions from others.

sooo....again...with keeping the Deca in cycle. What would you suggest to counter sides?

[HawaiianPride.]

To counter sides specifically from Deca look into a Prolactin Antagonizer (Prami) from the AR's banner up top. AI's such as Exemestane or Arimidex will prevent bloat and keep Gyno under control. Liver protection such as NAC, UDCA, Liv52 to assist from the Drol. Bump the Sust another 100-150mg at the very least. I'm off to bed.

[tappeast]

nice. thanks

[BROKEN]

I'd get the prami and liquid stane

keep us up to date on your cycle

[Knockout_Power]

so...i'm not stopping, what do you suggest. please.

f*cking research this website....man, whatever. EVERYONE on here says that. I UNDERSTAND. But, I don't have time to research to the extent that you guys will see me as an equal AAS theologist.

I'm tired of that research line. I have read through this website...and its endless..with A MILLION different opinions. eff that.

no thanks hard@ss


and yes...i have started to the other poster...what do you got for me

my god, wtf are you even doing here? Are you waiting till someone tells you exactly what you want to hear? You are getting great advice and your simple little brain is not accepting it...

you dont have time to be a beginner? What makes you so special? If you know so much about bypassing the fundamentals of anabolics use... again, why the hell are you on here?

Good luck when you're huge and look stacked and girls want you but your dick doesnt work... hope you like advanced cycling cause TRT is going to suit you very well...

[Knockout_Power]

Hawaiian, you got some serious heart to help these people.. how you do it is beyond me.

[Bertuzzi]

Tappeast.... Read my title, it's made for people like you

[Neevor]

Hawaiian, you got some serious heart to help these people.. how you do it is beyond me.

Jesus I was thinkin the same thing reading through this thread. Like bangin your head against the wall except the wall talks shiit every time you hit it. Gdamn...

OP, he's really tryin to help you more than any single person on this site would have and he knows what hes talkin about. You're a dope. There are other forums that will give you the advice you are lookin for. I suggest you go look there if you don't want Hawaiians cause you'll get the same from anyone here with experience.

[Big]

HP you are a better man than I am. A beginner who doesn't have time to be a beginner, priceless.

[D7M]

f*cking research this website....man, whatever. EVERYONE on here says that. I UNDERSTAND. But, I don't have time to research to the extent that you guys will see me as an equal AAS theologist.

Funniest thing I've ever read on here.

[Knockout_Power]

Funniest thing I've ever read on here.

one more for the hall of shame quotes... but please put it at #1

[Bertuzzi]

You've officially been Hall of Shamed!

[G4R]

Wow... his attitude seems to come out of nowhere. It doesnt seem like he has had any issues with any other threads he has posted in.....

also....and 1 more postwhoring notch under my belt.....everything that can be said under this topic or any other one have been already answered 1000x before all over this board. its the REAL questions I have that can't be answered on this board pertaining sensitive questions everyone are so eager to condemn.....I even get it and understand completely as to why.....but, it still doesnt answer some of my questions.

you dont get it huh....well, I changed and updated my avatar to make me look more credible.... and to let people know what I think MOST of the time......look at my avatar and tell me again you dont understand what i'm saying....

1) whatever man.........we could go back and forth all night like this....and when I say we.....I MEAN YOU (BJJ), we are the only ppl talking on this thread right now....seems you are having difficulties in this area.

2) what I am referring to....since you also seem to be having difficulties in this area as well....I am trying to soak up some of your 6 months total knowledge/ experience on this board, 2500+ posts and 1 cycle experience making you a near VET at this point.

you (BJJ) have done a VAR cycle, flamed or not, I WANT TO KNOW IF MY PRICING IS RIGHT FROM MY SOURCE....HELP OR NO HELP???? VAR , btw

I will be purchasing Lion's Lr3/MGF @ 2mg each tomorrow.

probably going EOD bilaterally PWO, @ 50mcg til complete.

my couple question's are....and I have researched...

1) can I pin both bilaterally PWO in same region....say... arms...at the same time/one after the other?

2) and suggestions for me as to preferred protein intake while on

stats

31yrs
5'8
175
10/11ish BF%

thanks

Shortly after this post ^^^, came this one....

is there any reason why no one has responded? WTF?

someone is going to refer you to

a) the appropriate section

b) research

c) repeat

the amount of topics unanswered on this board is amazing.

[Bertuzzi]

[HitIt]

As a beginner, I pretty much kept to myself for 3 or 4 months just reading posts in here. After that long, I know the basics and don't even have to ask questions like the OP because they are asked in here every freakin' day by someone else (and answered by smart, patient, and thoughtful people).

[MACHINE5150]

31
5'8
170

I am prepared for you guys to tee off on me with taking gear in general (my limited weight), taking Deca & drol together (gyno cycle) and whatever other blasts you may have for me.

But...at least let me know what I might expect...gains wise and any other good info.

PROLLY A WEAK CYCLE TOO....in many peoples eyes...I am prepared

Here it is...

Sust 250mg 10wks
Deca 300mg 10wks
Drol 25mg 1st week...prolly 50 following 3wks

Nolva is in the mail...

I'm really just wanting to get some massive strength gains and some extra weight...hopefully get to about 180-185 to stay...Not wanting to get much bigger is the reason my doses may seem low.

NOW BLAST....but give me some helpful info if possible

you usually want to run more test than Deca in order to overcome the side effects of Deca.. i.e. impotence.. Also, you should really do at least 400-500mg of test if any at all since you already are producing a few hundred milligrams a month anyways.. so 250 a week will probably only be slightly more than what you are already doing..

Seeing that you have been a member for 9 months i wonder why you did not ask us this before you started. HP's advice is 100%..

your goal of 185 is defnitly achievable, but with out a proper PCT program you will not hold onto it.. get some clomid

[G4R]

You can run less Test than Deca. The deca alone will shut you down, but even running a cruising level of test would be alright.

[Neevor]

Wow... his attitude seems to come out of nowhere. It doesnt seem like he has had any issues with any other threads he has posted in.....

Oh my lord. I had no idea. Thats a LOT of 'tude right there. WTF?

[gettingthere]

The idiots we're getting round here are getting worse

[Neevor]

The idiots we're getting round here are getting worse

Nah, I wouldnt go that far. I remember always seein guys back talk and not listen to the advice given since I've been reading this forum (like 3 or 4 years now).

[Parabolic]

Tbh now I see why I was bit out of line last thread.

I don't blame you mods / vets for getting pissed off now, seeing some of things people post. Seriously lol also fair play hawaii trying to help him bro.

[ghettoboyd]

dont you guy know who he is?....my god hes so fukin inportant that he DESERVES to be spoon fed all the info....why actually know what your doing when someone here will eventually give you all the answers....i tip my cap to you HP for your patiance but i wouldent have given him what he demanded, not with that attitude anyways....

[HawaiianPride.]

Yeah, my melatonin was kicking in, I was a little woozy and it was late.

Thanks fellas for the words.

[Knockout_Power]

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