The decline of the sterile 'working' environment

[Pac Man]

Maybe this is just me but I doubt it.
Have any of you noticed that you've become rather complacent in your sterile pinning procedures?

For starters, on my first cycle I would literally shower first than dawn some latex gloves, clean the whole bathroom with bleach , clean off the counters with alcohol, shower again, wash my hands with hepiclense, put on some new gloves, boil the vial and wipe the top with alcohol than I would wipe my injection spot, replace gloves, load my syringe change the needle clean my injection spot again.
It was a freaking ceremony to inject.

Now I skip the whole process, warm the vial, dab the top with alcohol, clean off injection spot and go. Clean environment is optional. I always think while I'm doing this if maybe I've become a little too complacent with my injection practices. Guess only time will tell.

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Perhaps you were just a little bit overboard at the start. After all the syringe is sterile until removed from wrapper and I have 1 needle that stays unopened until the syringe is full and the other needle has been removed. So it touches nothing besides the inj site after its been cleaned and I have never had any complications.

[Nooomoto]

For starters, on my first cycle I would literally shower first than dawn some latex gloves, clean the whole bathroom with bleach , clean off the counters with alcohol, shower again, wash my hands with hepiclense, put on some new gloves, boil the vial and wipe the top with alcohol than I would wipe my injection spot, replace gloves, load my syringe change the needle clean my injection spot again.
It was a freaking ceremony to inject.

Thats going more than overboard, dude. Your revision of the process is much more logical and plenty safe.

[DerrikT]

Injecting clean has been no effort at all, I personally wouldn't want to risk an infection.

I have a friend, run 3 cycles, reuses syringe, needles, no alcohol swaps, never had a problem. Not for me though

[cherrydrpepper]

First inject I ever did BOOM massive infection in my leg. After that, I try to shower before hand, swab the stoppers, swab the site, give it a min or two for the alcohol to dry, never let the needle touch anything, etc. The infection was so bad that psychologically I can't bring myself to inject quads again. I have pinned calves a couple of times on leg day and would pin there before going back to quads. Shoulder is my personal preference.

[dieseljimmy]

I was the oposite. I started very careless and have gotten progressively more careful. especially after infection in delt. I now scrub the hell out of the site and keep the bathroom hotel clean.

[powerliftmike]

Maybe this is just me but I doubt it.
Have any of you noticed that you've become rather complacent in your sterile pinning procedures?

For starters, on my first cycle I would literally shower first than dawn some latex gloves, clean the whole bathroom with bleach , clean off the counters with alcohol, shower again, wash my hands with hepiclense, put on some new gloves, boil the vial and wipe the top with alcohol than I would wipe my injection spot, replace gloves, load my syringe change the needle clean my injection spot again.
It was a freaking ceremony to inject.

Now I skip the whole process, warm the vial, dab the top with alcohol, clean off injection spot and go. Clean environment is optional. I always think while I'm doing this if maybe I've become a little too complacent with my injection practices. Guess only time will tell.

You boil your oil? Oil has a much higher boiling temp than water, did you really cook it to 400 F or something? Not sure why you even try to boil something thats sterile..

[Pac Man]

No, boiled water and put the vial in it.
I don't think it's possible to boil oil, generally the boil in oil will come from water but that's a whole different subject.

And 'presumably sterile' would be more accurate. I don't trust UGL's to be completely sterile.

[scotty51312]

think he meant place the vile in boiling water

[Bonaparte]

The way you're doing it now is fine. Your old routine was psychotic. However, keep doing the hot water bath with the vial, not for sterility purposes, but because it makes it makes the oil flow easier, thus making pinning easier and more comfortable.

The only MUSTS are that you use a new sterile syringe and needle each time and that you disinfect the stopper and injection site with alcohol. Basically everything after that is only appeasing your OCD.

[39+1]

that's funny. Give your bodies defenses some credit. The skin is not sterile and alcohol does not sterilize it. You would have to use a beta-dine to due so.
you develop cancer several times in you life you are exposed to STDs and other pathogens all the time but the body prevails. The body is resilient.
with every breath you body has to "put it dukes up" and fend off what ever bullshit you inhale. you body is one big chemical defense contractor working for your brain and it usually does it job. If aseptic or sterility was so important non of use would make out of the hospital.
Go and buy some hamburger and eat a couple spoon fulls raw. You'll live. Push chlorine and alcohol mixed with tap water thru a used syringe let it dry and reuse it you'll live.
In Indonesia i watched my freind get his head sown up with f%#kin yarn, no infx just a scar to brag about.
here is a thought. I you need a sterile solution use your own piss. yup if your healthy its sterile coming out of ya.

But never pick a booger and try to put it back. Ounce they are picked ya cant put them back and hunt them down again

[Bonaparte]

^^ I thoroughly enjoyed this post.

However, bear in mind that surgery patients (and likely your friend) are often given antibiotics afterward, otherwise the majority of them would develop horrible infections.

[Pac Man]

Keep boogers out, got it.
Actually I'm not an overly clean person, in fact I could probably be a lot more sanitary in my every day life.
I researched AAS for about 5 years before ever running a cycle. However, reading infection post and seeing pictures got me overly paranoid, at least in the beginning.
I think my sterilizing process is fine now, I just wonder if sometimes I'm too comfortable with the whole situation.
My next cycle will be my 4th, I keep cephalexin on hand at all times just in case of emergencies.

[TRT2010]

yes i agree this was a fun post

[baseline_9]

For my first cyle this is what i did;

Wash hands and injection site with soap
rinse both hands and wipe soap off injection site with a little water
load syringe (i was using amps so no need to swab)
put cap on needle
clean injection spot with alcohol wipe
inject
hold swab on site to stop any blood


job done

[lovbyts]

that's funny. Give your bodies defenses some credit. The skin is not sterile and alcohol does not sterilize it. You would have to use a beta-dine to due so.
you develop cancer several times in you life you are exposed to STDs and other pathogens all the time but the body prevails. The body is resilient.
with every breath you body has to "put it dukes up" and fend off what ever bullshit you inhale. you body is one big chemical defense contractor working for your brain and it usually does it job. If aseptic or sterility was so important non of use would make out of the hospital.
Go and buy some hamburger and eat a couple spoon fulls raw. You'll live. Push chlorine and alcohol mixed with tap water thru a used syringe let it dry and reuse it you'll live.
In Indonesia i watched my freind get his head sown up with f%#kin yarn, no infx just a scar to brag about.
here is a thought. I you need a sterile solution use your own piss. yup if your healthy its sterile coming out of ya.

But never pick a booger and try to put it back. Ounce they are picked ya cant put them back and hunt them down again

I agree with you but I still take the basic precautions. Wipe the top of the vial, don't reuse syringes, make sure the area I'm going to inject into is clean.

[Hazard]

Holy crap you went crazy overboard man......

I work in operating rooms and sterile environments for a living and you've cleaned your bathroom pre-injection better than any cleaning crew in any hospital or surgicenter i've ever been in LMFAO!

All you need to wipe is the rubber on the vial and the injection site. Use a bigger needle to draw and switch to a fresh needle to inject. Never re-use needles or syringes either! Follow this protocol and you should not have a problem unless you fvcked up the process somehow..... I.E. Touching the needle to your finger or the vial by accident.....

~Haz~

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I am the worst. All I do is rub the area briefly with the alcohol swab and inject. I font warm the vial or anything. I don't even aspirate that often either, which I know is bad. Its just so tough sometimes to aspirate. This thread is inspiring me to start doing that more though. But my process is I wake up, take a minute total to inject, then I done. I inject ED and haven't had a problem yet