My Deca cycle (1st time user) help and dosage

[denzel]

Hey guys

well just got shot with my deca durabolin of 50mg in 1 ml.


Is this way too small?

how often should i take the shot?

and for how long?


iv seen mixed reponses about nolva, should i take it during or after?

any help appreciated

thank you

[powerws]

What is your PCT?

What are Stats?

Are you taking only DECA?

How long have you been training?

How does diet your look?

[denzel]

24 years old
186cm
84kg
training close to 2 years

yes, only deca.

diet will now be way more strict now on the gear, was good before though.

should i be taking a shot every 2 weeks? and for how long?

i was thinking nolva for my pct, but wasnt to take it during or after. (approx 12 days after??)

[powerws]

Don't run deca alone! I made that mistake myself. It will shut your system down!

[denzel]

well, i only want to start one with 1... can you explain more..,

i see people on the forums taking like 200mg to 400mg a week.... mine looks tiny

and will keep progress up to date.

just would like some answers about my cycle.

also there are 2 types of nolva??? (according to my doctor) like an E or D (cant remember exactly)

[MBMETC]

DECA IS A HIGHLY SUPPRESIVE COMPOUND, SO MUCH AS 100MG ONLY COULD SHUT YOUR LABIDO DOWN 100%.
50MG WILL DO NOTHING IN TERMS OF GAIN, THE RISK TOTALLY OUTWEIGHS ANY REWARD
STOP AT THE 50MG YOU HAVE ALREADY TAKEN, I DON'T THINK PCT IS NEEDED AT ONLY A 1 TIME 50MG DOSE I'M SURE HP OR BONAPARTE COULD ANSWER BETTER.
YOU NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH, EVERY CYCLE NEEDS TEST. TEST ONLY FIRST CYCLE IT'S THE BREAD & BUTTER OF AAS USE

[D7M]

Agreed with MB.

Your cycle idea is just silly. If you did 10 min of research you'd know why this is such a bad idea.

And you're not even clear on the basics of PCT.

Don't do this.

Do some research around here for a while before you do anything and end up hurting yourself.

[denzel]

how much mg a week should i be taking

at least 200mg?

research shows, deca is a good gainer, and good for beginners, which is why i chose this...

iam clear of the basics of pct.

though i read up some take nova during their cycle, while others take it after.

i have gone through a doctor, so i cant see him letting me hurt myself.

[D7M]

how much mg a week should i be taking

at least 200mg?

research shows, deca is a good gainer, and good for beginners, which is why i chose this...

iam clear of the basics of pct.

though i read up some take nova during their cycle, while others take it after.

i have gone through a doctor, so i cant see him letting me hurt myself.

Once again, if you did ANY research you'd know that

1. deca only is a very, very poor choice for a cycle
2. the amount of deca used for muscle building

You're clear on the basics of PCT, but you don't know why some people use nolva on cycle, as well as post cycle??

Most doctors are pretty clueless when it comes to Bodybuilding.

If you're not going to take the advice of experienced guys who have been doing this alot longer than you...then I'm out of this thread.

[denzel]

im all ears for advice - the reason i posted was becuase i thought 50mg way too small.

so looking at a test instead

says 500mg a week with 20g of nolva

better for a first cycle? how long should i wait since i have taking the 50mg of deca only

[MBMETC]

Research deca dic* and come back to us

we told you why it is a poor choise to do as a stend alone.
I wanted to do deca only for my first cycle then i spent time on this board doing research and i can see my choise was poor.
It looks like a good choise because of the min side effects, research more and you'll see the other side of the coin.
Ed. Pro gyno .and more. If the choise comes down to hair loss like it does with most guys then maybe aas are not for you. Just my2c

[MBMETC]

5'10" 185LBS 24 YRS READ THIS

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

[denzel]

ok

Now for the worst news: Deca is a progestin (as are all nandrolones), unfortunately; it happens to stimulate the progesterone receptor 20% as well as progesterone itself (3), and this opens the door for many possible unwanted side effects (water retention, acne, etc...). It must be noted that most of those are rare, though. This also may be the major reason that Deca is such a suppressive drug when it comes to your natural testosterone levels. We can see from the chart below that a simgle measly 100mg injection of Deca caused a total (100%) reduction of natural testosterone levels, and it took roughly a month to return those testosterone levels to baseline! All from 100mgs of Deca!


should i quickly get some test?

what to do?

[MBMETC]

MORE READING. GOT TO LOVE THE STICKYS


TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

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denzel
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ok

Now for the worst news: Deca is a progestin (as are all nandrolones), unfortunately; it happens to stimulate the progesterone receptor 20% as well as progesterone itself (3), and this opens the door for many possible unwanted side effects (water retention, acne, etc...). It must be noted that most of those are rare, though. This also may be the major reason that Deca is such a suppressive drug when it comes to your natural testosterone levels. We can see from the chart below that a simgle measly 100mg injection of Deca caused a total (100%) reduction of natural testosterone levels, and it took roughly a month to return those testosterone levels to baseline! All from 100mgs of Deca!


should i quickly get some test?

what to do?

READ!

[denzel]

ok

im going to start this then

edit, no links to other board pls,

really need to go 20mg everyday?

or better to take clomid after

[MBMETC]

If you only took 50mg i think you will be ok.
No don't get any aas, you clearly need to do more research, i only say this because you did deca with no exit stratagy which is a poor sign of maturity and understanding of aas

[denzel]

let me know a first cycle, so i can tell my doctor
so i can go ahead with it

thats all i want to do.

[MBMETC]

YOUR NOT LISTENING, AND YOUR MIND IS MADE UP! I WILL NOT GIVE YOU THE ANSWER.
IF YOU DIDNT FIND THE ANSWER YOU WANT BY DOING THE PROPER RESEARCH, THEM I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THE MOTIVATION TO TRAIN PROPERLY AND HAVE A HEALTHY DIET FOR AAS TO DO YOU ANY GOOD.

GOOD LUCK

[D7M]

let me know a first cycle, so i can tell my doctor
so i can go ahead with it

thats all i want to do.

Take it easy my friend. At 24 years old you have plenty of time to grow.

Manipulating your hormones is not something to rush into blindly.

that's why we've been telling you to do more research.

You're putting things into your body that you have no clue how they work or what they do.

So take your time, do some research, and plan your cycle accordingly.

[sigman roid]

Not to be a dick but you have shown clearly that you have no idea about steroids or pct therefore i would stop everything and wait until i knew what i was doing and what the compounds i put into my body were doing to me.

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Something tells me that you guys are talking to yourself...

[MBMETC]

TO THE VETS, I'M TRYING TO HELP THIS GUY I HOPE I'M NOT STEPPING OUT OF LINE

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

MB you have done more than you probably should have to help this guy. I just hope it is not all in vein.

[MBMETC]

FuzzyPeaches o.O
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Something tells me that you guys are talking to yourself...

AND HOW.

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

AND HOW? What does that mean?

All I was saying is he is not LISTENING!!!

Chill with the caps & attitude.

[MBMETC]

Now attitude, its an old refrence to the little rascles tv show
it simply means i agree, no disrespect

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

My fault then.. I figured he got you all worked up and now you were turning on me..

[MBMETC]

no worrys it's all good

[PrideFEDOR]

Deca only or Deca/Dbol cycles are amazing. Were amazing back in the 80's. Lets see what was the stereotype of a bodybuilder back then ? A meathead with a limp noodle. Everything advanced since then. 30 years of computerized technological progress that moved every industry at least 100 years forward. U can buy a brand new laptop now for 50 bux. Back then ( in the 80's) they were extracting HGH from the PG of deceased people. Now we have laser eye surgeries , but if I told you about that in the 80's , I'd be laughed at in my face.
These guys are trying to help u bro and 99.9% outta time you'll get a great advice. This board is always on the edge of the latest data. Most of the vets here, believe it or not, know more about AAS than a doctor that went to college back in the 70's and read 40's-60's research papers. My kid gets GH prescriped " Nutropin AQ" every month for growth. So, once I attempted to talk to his endocrynologist about GH. So when I started telling him about 191AA chain, process of its synthesis etc. LR3IGF-I difference between regular IGF-I , the poor doctor looked at me like im from another universe. I know its unbelievable and most importantly is sad, because imo I'd go to the doctor first and took his advice before I'd take advice from some board member. I guess I was wrong. So "DENZEL" please listen to the boys. There are thousands like you went through here and most benefited from the suggestions of people who tried to help. Many of them went through the same exact situation you're in right now. Learn from other's mistakes, not your own, especially when the best possible help is provided to u.
Good luck and keep an open mind.

[denzel]

i have taken the advice about not doing deca - and that will be the last of that

i have read up that "test only" is the best way to go 1st cycle

ill be doing a cycle either way - so cant be put off, though i want to try and do it once and do it right, 1st time was poor choice on my behalf.

so just wondering what the best way to go at it is

cheers.