first cycle. got hard itchy lumps on injection area! what do i do?

[shane32c]

supp guys. on my 5th shot of my 1st cycle taking sus250 and deca. im injecting my ass but the last 2 times of injecting. the next day or day after ive been getten these really hard lumps which can b pretty itchy!.. is this anything to worry about and how can i avoid it..? thanks.

[-Ender-]

what are your stats?
What pin length are you using for glutes?

[shane32c]

im using blue needles. 2mill syringes. 1cc of sus250 and 1cc of deca 2times a week

[-Ender-]

please provide your stats:
age
weight
height
bf%
years of training.


needle length for glues should be 1.5 inches?

[shane32c]

ok.. age 19.. 14.3stone. 5.11 in height.. not sure of my bf%. and been trainin 2 and a half years now.. my needles r 0.6x30mm

[Far from massive]

Do yourself a favor and stop before you suffer the consequences. You are way too young to cycle, particularly a 19 nor.

[SAMS_DAD]

Those red itchy lumps are due to being underage. At 18yrs old you can develop a series of small pimple like bumps around the pinned area. j/k Deca on a first cycle, you better get your hands on some viagara or cialis, if that will even help. You probably got an infection on whatever you were pinning.

[-Ender-]

2 things:

1.check to be sure that you are using proper injection procedures. ie depth and angle.

2. I do not agree with using gear at your age. I would advise that you stop your cycle.

good luck

[Dont wanna be old]

Too young first problem .
Quality of gear maybe a problem . Human grade vs UGL .
Someone else needs to figure metric pins . 1 1/2 inch is used in glutes and 1 inch for quads .

I suggest stopping cycle with suspect bumps and redness .
Educate yourself and do more research , get a few more years naturally under your belt .

Good luck
Dont wanna be old .

[shane32c]

i totally understand what u guys r sayen about being to young been told it before. but also been told if im safe and do not abuse or eceed safe amounts i should be ok.. all the top dogs started my age or even younger, but i respect ur opinions.. @Ender i am 99%sure my procedures r fine. is there anything u can suggest to avoid getten these lumps or any things to treat it.. appart from stoping gear

[JohnnyVegas]

... but also been told if im safe and do not abuse or eceed safe amounts i should be ok.

Who told you that, and were they specific on what "abuse" and "safe amounts" are?

@Ender i am 99%sure my procedures r fine. is there anything u can suggest to avoid getten these lumps or any things to treat it.. appart from stoping gear

You may have shot yourself in the foot on this one, because if your procedures are fine then it is the gear. And if it is the gear, you should stop.

[shane32c]

yeah a very realible source. years of experiance at top level. said to me.. if i onli jab twice a week.. 1cc of sus. 1cc of deca each time i should be ok..

[redz]

each time i should be ok..

Interesting way of thinking of things, you clearly don`t care about potential side effects. Are you planning on trying to go pro or even compete?

[shane32c]

redz i think i do obiously care about side effects man come on? and yes i am planning on competing maybe not on a pro stage but definatly compete. im just concerned about these lumps im getting. and want a clear cut solid awnser from some1 who has experianced these effects or knows of them and how to resolve them.. as much help would be appeciated bro. thanks

[redz]

There really shouldn`t be lumps after injecting, this could be low quality gear or just your body reacting badly to the gear.

[shane32c]

ive just read over the rules for this fourm. im not too sure if im allowed to tell u the name of the lad makes my gear, u clear on this rule so i can tell u to c if u thinks its ok stuff or not.. and if it was my body reacting bad is this a major issue or can it be treated in anyway while continuing to inject?

[redz]

Yeah you can`t name the lab, once you have 50 posts you can pm the name of the lab to me or a vet who may know more about that lab.

[F-Genetics]

i totally understand what u guys r sayen about being to young been told it before. but also been told if im safe and do not abuse or eceed safe amounts i should be ok.. all the top dogs started my age or even younger, but i respect ur opinions.. @Ender i am 99%sure my procedures r fine. is there anything u can suggest to avoid getten these lumps or any things to treat it.. appart from stoping gear

They are just trying to look out for your well being. At your age, most guys will not heed other peoples warnings. You run this risk of permanently screwing up your endocrine system and stunting your growth, not to mention the possible long term SEXUAL side effects from messing with AAS to young. You can screw up your protein synthesis in your liver among many other things. You have to wait bare minimum until your growth plates are closed. Regardless of what anyone tells you about safe levels, there are none. But if you want to have to possibly under hormone replacement therapy for the rest of your life, by all means stay on the road you are on.
A friend of mine is 21 and at 18 he did his first and only cycle. His doctors are already telling him that he already has the liver of a 65 year old...So I would choose life, having a lot of sex, and natural time in the gym building vs. screwing my body up permanently.
Research yourself online the possible side effects of using AAS to early in life. You don't have to believe us...

[shane32c]

ok f-genetics, ive just had a reality check/ paranoid 10minutes of thinking.. thanks to urself bro. no i dont wana end up with all the bad effects of using gear.. and stuff like that.. but the thing is.. getting big naturally even at a young age is so so hard..!!.. it dosent happen quick enough, good diet hard ass training routines, good techniqe.. i have all this. and am not getten big quick enough. its been 2and a half years. ive onli gained 1.5stone? can u not at least c the reason for taking so young or have u ever herd of whats going on with me.. hard lumps etc.

[upperhandy]

what guage pin?

[shane32c]

blue needle. 0.6x30mm

[Far from massive]

The needle is probably not the problem, 30 mm is 1.18 inches while a 38mm 1.49" would be better a 1.18 fully inserted should be fine.

[Far from massive]

Double post.

[upperhandy]

blue needle. 0.6x30mm

23g 1.25"

[shane32c]

thanks guys.. gona have my nxt jab on friday. will c how i get on with it.. fully inserted and at a 90 degree angle. whilst spreading the muscle. as i have been doin previously with no joy.. lol..

[shaunpshaunp]

my mate suffered the same problem. He sore a doctor about it, they suggested that he rubs the area of injection for 10 or so mins, giving it a hard rub. The lumbs are a build up for ur gear not being injected right. However he did not stop and kept injecting (sus250 2ml a week ) with rubbing the area of injection finshed his cycle fine..

only an idea.