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    last pin, time for pct planning

    I've asked questions about pct in other threads but they never got answered..

    I just had my last pin, 7.5 weeks of sustanon 250 @ 600mg/w done

    used Nolva for gyno a few times during the cycle.

    age 38
    height 6'1"
    stats before cycle 176 pounds bf 10%

    after cycle 196 pounds bf 12%

    strenght increase from 40-80% depending on muscle.

    did military press with 52pound kettlebell before cycle, I can press 88 pound bell now.
    I did squats with 150 pounds before cycle, now with 286 pounds.

    I havn't gained much mass, but I do like the strenght increase and hope I keep most of it, incrasing strenght was the main goal of the cycle.

    now I need some pct advice....

    I know I can get Nolva, I don't know about other stuff but I can try.

    I know I should start pct on day 18 from last pin, that is tha 13. april.

    but the amount I'm supposed to use is unsure.. I have seen pct cycles with 100mg nolva ed and down to 20mg nolva ed...

    so what should my dosage of nolva be and for how long ?
    and do I need something else for my pct, then what, dosage, time ?

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    why are you just now planning pct? listen this is a key fundamental on this site. we plan ahead and have more than enough of everything ,or dont bother.... thats like playing with fire these things you need to have on hand.. 40 mg of nolva 1st and 2nd week then drop down to 20 mg for next 2 weeks. are you going to run clomid also?if so ,50/50/30/30 ,per day/per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karate-bjj View Post

    I know I can get Nolva, I don't know about other stuff but I can try.
    There are plenty of research sites you can get all the chems you need for a PCT. AR-R is a board sponsor that I've heard good things about. No one should ever have a problem getting what they need for a PCT, and especially shouldn't start a cycle before they have it

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    Quote Originally Posted by cro View Post
    why are you just now planning pct? listen this is a key fundamental on this site. we plan ahead and have more than enough of everything ,or dont bother.... thats like playing with fire these things you need to have on hand.. 40 mg of nolva 1st and 2nd week then drop down to 20 mg for next 2 weeks. are you going to run clomid also?if so ,50/50/30/30 ,per day/per week.
    Certainly true, I keep more PCT chems on hand than gear. Cro outlined you a good PCT above. If you don't have clomid at least follow his Nolva recommendation. Next time have some HCG on hand as well

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    You can get all your PCT chems in a matter of days from AR-R if you are in the US. As far as PCT go to the PCT section and find Swiftos updated PCT its all current good information. And yes as others have said in the future always have your PCT planned and supplied before starting your cycle.

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    Don´t make much difference, but I thought running Sust, PCT should start 21 days after last pin.

    PCT as cro suggested, and 2 SERM´s are recommended for what I understand causes primary and secondary stimulation of the pituitary.
    Some people report sides with Clomid. Toremifene supposed to be easier in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iGoHard508 View Post
    There are plenty of research sites you can get all the chems you need for a PCT. AR-R is a board sponsor that I've heard good things about. No one should ever have a problem getting what they need for a PCT, and especially shouldn't start a cycle before they have it
    I live in Iceland so ordering online is not an option, importing chemicals without a license is not possible so I have to find local sources.

    I did start to plan my pct before I started the cycle, and I've asked for advice here in numerous threads without getting an answer.

    but it seems I finally got an answer I can use, thanx cro.

    this is my first cycle, probably the only one I'm going to do.. it did help me with some knee pains I had before cycle but are gone now and I did get stronger.
    now I just have to finish my pct and cut down to about 8%bf and then I'm good... I'll focus on my diet and my routine for about a year trying to build up naturally. and when I turn 40 I'll see about another cycle if I still want to get bigger or stronger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by karate-bjj View Post
    I live in Iceland so ordering online is not an option, importing chemicals without a license is not possible so I have to find local sources.

    I did start to plan my pct before I started the cycle, and I've asked for advice here in numerous threads without getting an answer.

    but it seems I finally got an answer I can use, thanx cro.

    this is my first cycle, probably the only one I'm going to do.. it did help me with some knee pains I had before cycle but are gone now and I did get stronger.
    now I just have to finish my pct and cut down to about 8%bf and then I'm good... I'll focus on my diet and my routine for about a year trying to build up naturally. and when I turn 40 I'll see about another cycle if I still want to get bigger or stronger...
    Same in my country, but I just order anyway. About 1 of 3 packages slips through, the rest are being returned to ar-r by customs.

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    im 38 also i had some elbow pain that went away while cycling. but i just recently finished pct now i have forearm splints. nice. so you were 198 were are you now ?also bf%
    Quote Originally Posted by karate-bjj View Post
    I live in Iceland so ordering online is not an option, importing chemicals without a license is not possible so I have to find local sources.

    I did start to plan my pct before I started the cycle, and I've asked for advice here in numerous threads without getting an answer.

    but it seems I finally got an answer I can use, thanx cro.

    this is my first cycle, probably the only one I'm going to do.. it did help me with some knee pains I had before cycle but are gone now and I did get stronger.
    now I just have to finish my pct and cut down to about 8%bf and then I'm good... I'll focus on my diet and my routine for about a year trying to build up naturally. and when I turn 40 I'll see about another cycle if I still want to get bigger or stronger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cro View Post
    im 38 also i had some elbow pain that went away while cycling. but i just recently finished pct now i have forearm splints. nice. so you were 198 were are you now ?also bf%
    age 38
    height 6'1"
    stats before cycle 176 pounds bf 10%

    after cycle 196 pounds bf 12%

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    Quote Originally Posted by karate-bjj View Post
    I did start to plan my pct before I started the cycle, and I've asked for advice here in numerous threads without getting an answer.

    but it seems I finally got an answer I can use, thanx cro.
    If you ever need quick advice, use the search box. Hundreds (thousands?) of people have asked about PCT and received good advice by people that continue to give solid answers to questions that have been asked hundreds of times.

    You can't blame your lack of PCT on members for not answering your questions.

    EDIT: Ironically, just below your thread (I always click the "new posts" button) was Stifto's respected "PCT Q&A" thread that has 450 posts in it. There is more info in there than you would ever be able to find by asking a question.
    Last edited by JohnnyVegas; 03-26-2011 at 01:39 PM.

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    I'm not blaming anyone, what gave you that idea ?

    my other threads just lost focus on the questions I asked and revolved around something completely different.

    I did do my research, I do have Nolva to begin my pct and can get nolva easily.

    I just needed the right dosage for my cycle, I do not weigh 300 pounds and I'm not on my 30th cycle and injecting 5 different compounds so I didn't want to use just any dosage I found on the forum.

    and I read a thread here about Arimidex or something that is popular with nolva in pct, and in that thread there were talk about bad sides from that stuff and mentioning about something else that would be better with nolva.

    since I didn't have any bad sides from my cycle I do not want to get them from pct, that's the main reason I am still asking questions, I do have 18 days until I start pct and I just want to get it right. if there is something I can improve now is the time, not when my pct starts

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    1st off you were no where you needed to be for starting a cycle.6ft 1 176.You needed to be in the diet section.And you didnt do much if any research or you wouldve had your pct ready to go.AAS isnt a game bro.You can mess yourself up.You need to educate yourself.

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    well.. my gf is a nutritionist and is doing her masters now and she takes care of my diet so I'm as good as I can be there...

    I am a professional trainer, mma fighter and karate teacher. and getting my bachelor in sports and health science.

    I have no intention of getting as big as I can, that is not the reason for my cycle, I was trying to get stronger without getting bigger because I've been stuck with the same weights for almost a year, this cycle helped me get past that and I have increaced my strength as planned, I have no sides and my tests didn't shut down even though they didn't perform as usual during the cycle but they will be back on track soon.

    and I did plenty reasearch.. like 3 years of university study on AAS as a part of my sports and health science study... and I did join this site before I started the cycle to get more info from people that use AAS to balance out the info I get at school where AAS is a "drug" and those using AAS are "drug addicts" so I needed to see what the other side said.

    the fact that I didn't buy what I need for my pct is because I was waiting to see how my body would react to the AAS and base my pct on that.
    I can get Nolva, AAS and probably much more that I don't know about, it's just a phonecall away and I will have it 10 minutes after I call

    those who import AAS and PCT chemicals to Iceland do not import 10 amps at a time, they import 1000 amps or more each time so they have everything in stock.

    one supplier got busted 2 days ago with 36000 pills and amps, this is a country of 360.000 people and this bust didn't even set them back one bit...

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