What steroids should i take

[crazycracka]

Stats

Age : 25
Height : 6ft
Weight : 195lb
BF : 14%
Training EXP : 11yrs


I just have some questions on what i should take i could really use some advice

btw im new to steroids

[shooterdude]

whats your work out and diet look like

[PunjabiHiTMaNN]

Everything you need can be found in this thread, read it carefully and then you should ask specific questions.

Newbies Starter Pack <---- *admin* Approved this is a board link

[crazycracka]

Monday : chest,biceps,triceps
tuesday : abs,obliques,legs
wednesday : break
Thursday : Cardio,biceps,triceps
Friday : ALL
SAt/Sun = rest

Diet Meal 1 : Oatmeal With some fruit
Meal 2 : Chicken ,mashed potatoes, Vegetable
Meal 3 : Protien Shake
Meal 4 : Steak,vegetables,some noodles

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Read the stickies at the top, they cover all the basics for the new guys...

[carbo]

Just looking at your thread, I can tell you're a cool guy cracka

I'd most def throw some Test in tha mix

[vtach12]

Doesn't sound like you are ready for juice yet. Training needs some help and your diet is awful. Head to the diet then the training section, once those are on point, read the stickies on the steroid section. If then you have some things you need for clarification, post it up. We will be happy to help you. But nobody likes to spoon feed.

[KINGKONG]

train and eat till you reach a point when you cant gain anymore than add straight 500mg test anything else when your first starting is to much..Iam with the other guys in you need to wait but if your gonna do it..Test..I just put my friend who's an amatuer bodybuilding champ 5' 9 210 5% natural and with his training and diet in check a 12 week cycle of test with an AI put on roughly 20lb's granted theres some water there, but he looks great..IMO you gotta feel your way around AS and starting with a low dose test cycle is a good gauge on were to go next with it..Good luck bro

[brad1986]

diet is terrible you could make great gains by hitting the diet section

[crazycracka]

ok guys thx

[redz]

Amazing you are even 195lbs on that diet.

[Bob segal]

work on diet , then when it s time, do basic cycle of long ester test exp..

week
1-8 test cyp 500mg, 2 injections a week(mon, thurs)
pct (14 days after last shot)
10-16 20mg nolvadex ed/ 25mg aromasin ed

keep nolv and aromasin on hand incase during cycle u need help wit bloat or gyno symptoms...

u need to eat more, get a good 6 meals in a day and focus on 2g complex carb perbd lb, 2g protien per bd lb, and good essential fats around .5 -.75 g per bd lb

[im83931]

Monday : chest,biceps,triceps
tuesday : abs,obliques,legs
wednesday : break
Thursday : Cardio,biceps,triceps
Friday : ALL
SAt/Sun = rest

I wont even touch the diet. Your training is not great though, what does ALL mean on Friday. Are you doing you whole body, or all the body parts you missed Mon-Thur. According to what you wrote you only work about half your body and then on Friday try to make up for it.

[redz]

week
1-8 test cyp 500mg, 2 injections a week(mon, thurs)
pct (14 days after last shot )
10-16 20mg nolvadex ed/ 25mg aromasin ed

Not a great cycle layout.....

[Bob segal]

how can it get anymore basic then tht

I would like to see REDZ

[redz]

8 weeks is too short for me, most gains come later for me usually weeks 6-10 at the least, 8 just seems to short for longer esters. Also Clomid and Nolva are a better pct, aromasin is really for estrogen control more than bringing up test levels back to normal.

[KINGKONG]

I agree, to me long acting esters need to be run for 12 weeks plus at least and clomid and nolva are fine for a pct...

[KINGKONG]

But that diet is the main problem..Diet is the most important thing besides common Knowledge of lifting and form..

[Bob segal]

thats what i always tht too. But after researching marcus short burst cycles ,if you prime ur body correct, you can get a huge growth spurt in short burst cycle.

heres a quote from ronnies version of reload and deload another great program just more for the all out bodybuilder a( becuase you come off and go back on). Marcus short burst cycle is where its at, i will never cycle more then 6 weeks unless im cutting

RONIES QUoTE
". Anabolics have been shown to work best for appoximately 8 weeks. After that point, additional muscle gains slow dramatically and you would need to use higher amounts drugs or supplements to advance further. The problem with that approach is unwanted side effects"

he will explain even with long esters u can short burst cycle..

heres marcus thread very interesting and it works

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ned&highlight=