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    Final questions before cycle

    So i'm one week away from cycling now, I have done the research but I have a few final questions hopefully the more experienced guys can help me out. This is my first cycle after all.

    I've dieted down to 12% and this week is my first/last week at maintenance/very little lifting then I will begin next week. I have lost some mass due to dieting quicker but with the AAS i'm sure this will come back quickly.

    Anyway i'm 24, been lifting for some years, have diet/routine and everything else planned out. Here is my cycle;

    Dbol 1-6 @ 30mg ED
    Test E 1-10 @ 300mg/wk
    10-12 @ 350mg/wk

    AI:
    Aromasin @ 12.5mg ED

    PCT: Full HPTA Restart minus HCG
    Clomid @ 100mg ED for 30 days
    Nolva @ 20mg for 45 days

    Cycle Support:
    Liv-52 @ 3 tablets/3x ED
    Nac (label doses)
    Fish Oil

    Others:
    Taurine (dbol pumps)

    The strange dose on the Test is due to the total amount I have and me wanting to run 12 weeks instead of 10 @ 400mg a week. I feel for my first cycle I would rather run an extra few weeks which will give me a little more time 'ON' to get more experience for the future.

    I have also had a full panel of bloods, lipids, liver and test done for comparison after PCT.

    Questions:
    I have 1400mg of Dbol in total, It seems pointless to keep 140mg left over so I was thinking about doing 30mg ED for 4 weeks then finish off with 40mg ED for 6 weeks. I was thinking the extra 10mgs at the end so it can work with the test when its starting to peak. Is this going to be overboard?

    Is 12.5mg ED of Armosin going to be enough with the higer dose of Dbol? I was oringially going to run 25mg ED for 6 weeks.

    Anything else I need or advise you can give?

    Last but not least, I probably have about 5kg of muscle loss due to being sick for a period of time plus cutting down to 12%. I will alter my diet according to how much muscle/fat I gain but my question is how much should I expect to gain a week on the above cycle?

    I know this is probably a hard question to answer since I have recently lost mass and that should come back pretty quickly but a rough idea allowing for the lost muscle would help me, I had planned on starting at 4.5k and seeing how I go from there since my last natty bulk was 4k and I gained steadily. The sooner I can gain back the lost muscle the more time I have to make new gains, that's the reason for the question.

    Thanks for your time, if you made it to the bottom

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    This is your 1st cycle?

    Drop the dbol and bump up test to 500 mg. If you dont have it, order more. Save the dbol for a later cycle. Youll be more than fine with 500mg of test E given youre eating enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cb714 View Post
    This is your 1st cycle?

    Drop the dbol and bump up test to 500 mg. If you dont have it, order more. Save the dbol for a later cycle. Youll be more than fine with 500mg of test E given youre eating enough.
    Thanks for the thought mate, but not going to happen. I live in a small town with only one contact for AAS who is now overseas for 3 months, so I have to work with what I've got.

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    It looks like a great cycle to me, I wish I could do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondarocks View Post
    It looks like a great cycle to me, I wish I could do it.
    Why can't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonameman View Post
    Why can't you?
    I have to get my health together first, I got exposed to anthrax and radiation in Iraq and it ripped me apart. Now I am using GH and other things to fix me up because the doctors only can give me band-aids through pain killers and phyc meds and topical steroids and they have admitted to me that traditional medicine has failed me in this case, but cannot prescribe growth and get my insurance to pay for it. GH is my only cure and I have to pay for it even though I didn't bring this upon myself. If I do anabolic's right now I could get a flare up and loose all my progress. The doctors know the GH is helping but they say the anabolic's would ruin it.
    Last edited by Hondarocks; 10-03-2011 at 11:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondarocks View Post
    I have to get my health together first, I got exposed to anthrax and radiation in Iraq and it ripped me apart. Now I am using GH and other things to fix me up because the doctors only can give me band-aids through pain killers and phyc meds and topical steroids and they have admitted to me that traditional medicine has failed me in this case, but cannot prescribe growth and get my insurance to pay for it. GH is my only cure and I have to pay for it even though I didn't bring this upon myself. If I do anabolic's right now I could get a flare up and loose all my progress. The doctors know the GH is helping but they say the anabolic's would ruin it.
    Yeah, get your health right then worry about cycling. It's not a race remember mate, you will get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondarocks View Post
    I have to get my health together first, I got exposed to anthrax and radiation in Iraq and it ripped me apart. Now I am using GH and other things to fix me up because the doctors only can give me band-aids through pain killers and phyc meds and topical steroids and they have admitted to me that traditional medicine has failed me in this case, but cannot prescribe growth and get my insurance to pay for it. GH is my only cure and I have to pay for it even though I didn't bring this upon myself. If I do anabolic's right now I could get a flare up and loose all my progress. The doctors know the GH is helping but they say the anabolic's would ruin it.
    Where'd my reply go.

    Anyway I said, yeah make sure you get your health right first. It's not a race mate and it will be your turn soon enough!

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    Bump. Anymore thoughts?

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