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    First cycle plan and would like some opinions if I am on the right track

    34 m 6' 205lb BF aprox 13-15% Diet is good 90% of the time. I'm a former college athlete and I have been training since I was 16 without any major time away from the weight room. My goals with this first cycle are to gain strength that will translate over to athletics i.e.. be more explosive and faster. If I get a little bigger and more cut hey who am I to complain. I know that anavar will not put that much size on me but I am really just looking to stay the same weight while dropping some fat and gaining strength and a few pounds of lean muscle. From the research I have done anavar seems like it will help me with this. The other reason I like anavar is I am already getting the first signs of a receding hair line so I really don't want to hurry things up. Hence my reluctance to do any test which I know would give me the best results stacking them together.

    If you guys that have a lot more experience with this could take a look at this and tell me if I am on the right track and what I could do to improve this plan, for what I want to accomplish, or if I am completely lost and am just gone to hurt my self. I know most people will tell me to take it with some test to get the best results but I just don't think it's right for me, right now. I will be happy with some improvement in lifts and speed. Past couple years I have been working out harder and smarter then I ever have and have seen only minor improvement. Looking for something to get me over the hump

    Anavar Aromasin Nolvadex
    1 20 mgs/ED 5mgs / ED
    2 30 mgs/ED 5mgs / ED
    3 30 mg/ED 5mgs / ED
    4 40 mgs/ED 5mgs / ED
    5 50 mgs/ED 5mgs / ED
    6 40 mgs/ED 5mgs / ED
    7 5mgs / EOD 40 mgs/ED
    8 40 mgs/ED
    9 20 mgs/ED
    10 20 mgs/ED

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    sorry things got a jumbled up. Here is how it looks

    Anavar Aromasin Nolvadex
    1 20 mgs/ED 5mgs / ED
    2 30 mgs/ED 5mgs / ED
    3 30 mg/ED 5mgs / ED
    4 40 mgs/ED 5mgs / ED
    5 50 mgs/ED 5mgs / ED
    6 40 mgs/ED 5mgs / ED
    7-------------------- 5mgs / EOD 40 mgs/ED
    8 ------------------------------- 40 mgs/ED
    9 ------------------------------- 20 mgs/ED
    10 ------------------------------- 20 mgs/ED

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    You need a little more research on here. That proposed cycle isn't good what so ever. You do need the test and not worry about the hairline. I promise you its not as bad as you might presume. Also the amount of var you are wanting to run isn't that much or is very low.

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    Anavar shuts you down so your gonna need test. Nobody recommends oral only cycles.

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    And your PCT is awesome!! Not to sound like a dick...But more research, and a lot of it is required on your part. Your "cycle" needs a lot of work. Do more research and come back w/something. We'll be here to help.

    And why isn't test right for you? Injection problems? Well, once again, not to sound like a dick, but if you have problems injecting, this isn't your game. I'm just letting you know the basics as it will help you in the long run.

    My suggestion is to stay on this site and learn as much as you can. We have all the answers here. Just spend time to read thru all the sticky's. It's all right there in front of you.

    Good Luck

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    I am not afraid of the pinning. It was more to stay away from hair loss side effects. I know I need more research and I am just in the beginning stages of it. Unfortunately I don't know anybody with any real experience that I would trust to give me advice. Any advice on here would be greatly appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd the truth View Post
    Anavar shuts you down so your gonna need test. Nobody recommends oral only cycles.
    disagree,,, test is gonna shut you down,, anavar prb only supress a little,, much easier cycle on your sytem and recovery is anavar only.

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    chuckt12345,

    That is what I was thinking from the info that I have been able to find. That being said most of it is opinions off of chat boards I have had a hard time finding real data any where. Don't think I am just asking a for someone to set up something for me, I know I need to put the time and energy in I just want some better info to point me in the right direction.

    Anavar seemed the logical choice to me for it's mild side effects and yeah I know that means mild gains. But I would be happy with that.

    PCT seemed to me to just be some Nolv or Clom and an anti E while I was taking that anavar.

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    firstly, i havent a clue what you're proposing with the way you've laid that out. secondly, that var dosage wouldnt put muscle on a mouse and there is no need for ramping doses.

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    1. Var dose is too low.
    2. Test only is almost universally recomended as first cycle (for good reasons)
    3. The hairline issue is a valid concern. I found that nizoral cream worked great to prevent that. I actually GAINED hair on cycle.
    4. The guys I know from the gym are not a good source of knowledge. Stick around this board. Use the search function. Keep asking questions. You will learn quickly who too listen to .the knowledge on this board far surpasses the knowledge in the gym lockerroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pheenyx1 View Post
    1. Var dose is too low.
    2. Test only is almost universally recomended as first cycle (for good reasons)
    3. The hairline issue is a valid concern. I found that nizoral cream worked great to prevent that. I actually GAINED hair on cycle.
    4. The guys I know from the gym are not a good source of knowledge. Stick around this board. Use the search function. Keep asking questions. You will learn quickly who too listen to .the knowledge on this board far surpasses the knowledge in the gym lockerroom.
    amen, i made the mistake of listening to gym talk when i started out using aas

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