HGH advice please

[TRYER]

Hi all i have a few questions and im hoping you guys with the knowledge and experience can help.
im going to start a HGH cycle and my questions are as follows,

1 is 5iu ed high enough

2 do i need to take T4 with it or if i dont am i waiting my time and hard earned cash

3 how long after taking t4 does it take your thyroid to get back to normal

4 what are the best steroid cycles to take with HGH (ideally ones that hold least water)

5 do i stay on steroids for the whole of my HGH cycle (6 month)

6 ive heard taking HGH twice daily as apposed to just one daily is best is there any truth in this

7 taking HGH on an empty stomach is best so taking my first dose on waking is ideal but when would i take my second dose

thanks all i know i have a lot of questions and no doubt there are alot of write ups i can read on here but im being honest im not the best reader, i dont really take in all the info and for that reason im asking you guys the pro's

all help is appreiciated

[gixxerboy1]

yes you have to take t4 with it
gh doesnt have to be on an empty stomach but no carbs with in an hour of injection
what steroids to take depends on your goals, stats and cycle experience
no you do not stay on steroids for 6 months
if you have real gh 5 ius is a good amount. You are going to have to work you way up to that dose

[Phyll]

Why do you need to take t4 with gh? Does that apply to peptides as well?

[gixxerboy1]

Why do you need to take t4 with gh? Does that apply to peptides as well?

no offense but take a second to look it up. It the "important threads eveyone should read" there is a sticky about it

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.Tw8_zIH6KJo

[Phyll]

thanks! very cool read. That's a new concept for me.

[TRYER]

Thanks for hijacking my thread please start your own as now my questions wont get answered

[Razor]

Hi all i have a few questions and im hoping you guys with the knowledge and experience can help.
im going to start a HGH cycle and my questions are as follows,

1 is 5iu ed high enoughPlenty, start at 2iu ed work your way to 5iu over the next three weeks 2/3/4/5, if you start with 5 you will have to many sides and push you out of taking anymore.

2 do i need to take T4 with it or if i dont am i waiting my time and hard earned casht4 is very cheap can find 1000tabs online for $60

3 how long after taking t4 does it take your thyroid to get back to normalMuch debate, but not as long as it would with t3

4 what are the best steroid cycles to take with HGH (ideally ones that hold least water)test prop, winny, tren

5 do i stay on steroids for the whole of my HGH cycle (6 month)stay on the gh for 6 months, the steriods max 8-10 weeks

6 ive heard taking HGH twice daily as apposed to just one daily is best is there any truth in thisI do twice a day EOD, going to start once a day though, I hate twice a day, to many insulin spikes

7 taking HGH on an empty stomach is best so taking my first dose on waking is ideal but when would i take my second dosePost workout

thanks all i know i have a lot of questions and no doubt there are alot of write ups i can read on here but im being honest im not the best reader, i dont really take in all the info and for that reason im asking you guys the pro's

all help is appreiciated

See above in bold

[TRYER]

Cheers rzar how would you cycle all the steroids and also I work shifts so I train not long after waking so will it matter doing one pin then another 2hrs later do I do the steroids at the start middle or end of cycle and will me not being on steroids hinder my progress on hgh
Cheers again bud

[Razor]

Cheers rzar how would you cycle all the steroids and also I work shifts so I train not long after waking so will it matter doing one pin then another 2hrs later do I do the steroids at the start middle or end of cycle and will me not being on steroids hinder my progress on hgh
Cheers again bud

I think you really need to to put together a good post in the main anabolic section.
No guidance can be given without knowledge of your stats, age, weight bf% past history, current diet and goals how long you have been training and what you expect to happen using gear.
The start of you cycle you can start using the gh, you will stay on the gh after cycle and begin PCT and maintain calories to hold your gains.
If done properly you might only loose a few pounds or none at all. Depends on what you eat, how you train and lots of other things. Defiantly read a lot in the education threads which is a sub forum of the main anabolic forum. And read the education threads on this forum for gh.
As far as

[TRYER]

I'm 38 and 5ft 10and 17.5stones my bf is about 30% so quiet fat really hence wanting to do hgh.
I have used hgh in the past for 3 months but I drank beer alot whiles doing it (stupid I know) I have also used steroids for a number of years too not properly tho but now I'm in a better place and have a better job I enjoy so I'm ready to change just need a little help in the aid of hgh and gear so all you and anyone else can tell me on how to do it properly would be appreciated

[Razor]

Too much bf to run a cycle, diet down to 15%, cut the beer out and I have no idea what you have run in the past
GH is not magic. Get all that info together and post it in the main section.
Having that much bf% at your age already can give a man gyno
Im 5'10 195 and 10%---See the difference
More muscle than fat per lbs.

[TRYER]

So won't hgh help me Lose the bf on its own without steroids along with diet and exercise

[gixxerboy1]

yes gh will help with loosing bf. But gh is a long slow process.

[Razor]

So won't hgh help me Lose the bf on its own without steroids along with diet and exercise

That is a very expensive route to bf reduction when you could just diet down.

[TRYER]

But u get other benifits too tho don't u ?

[Razor]

Yea but Im telling ya man, you will feel just as good with a brand new diet and exercise routine
I started the growth after years of training and plateuing. You will benefit more from getting down to a idea weight
eating right and exercise, then when you cant progress any further hit the growth and gear after you know what you are doing.

[TRYER]

So in a nutshell doing t4 and hgh won't do jack for me

[gixxerboy1]

for the average guy gh isnt worth the $$ for the benefits

[TRYER]

It works wonders for sly Stallone and other stars even people in my gym who have used it change in appearance quiet quickly when I say quickly I mean over a 6 month period and they used a test based steroid cycle even friends I used to be in the army with have used gh for short periods just for fat loss that why I can't understand why it won't work for me ?
One of my main issues is getting my head in the game and I feel when on gear I'm there but when I'm not my motivation is zero, and when I get like that it frustrates me as I've always loved the gym as a youngster!

[TRYER]

I have already got my hgh too 600iu of it in 100iu kits the Greece pharmaceutical one genetropin and I'm gutted now as its not the type of thing you can get a refund on

[TRYER]

Bump

[TRYER]

So is no One else gonna help

[gixxerboy1]

what else do you need answered?

[SlimmerMe]

It works wonders for sly Stallone and other stars even people in my gym who have used it change in appearance quiet quickly when I say quickly I mean over a 6 month period and they used a test based steroid cycle even friends I used to be in the army with have used gh for short periods just for fat loss that why I can't understand why it won't work for me ?
One of my main issues is getting my head in the game and I feel when on gear I'm there but when I'm not my motivation is zero, and when I get like that it frustrates me as I've always loved the gym as a youngster!

this is an honest remark and I bet you are not alone; however food can actually be a better chemical solution

[TRYER]

I don't want anything else answering just other people's opinion as I have spent alot of cash on the hgh now and was hoping its not going to be wasted

[lovbyts]

It works wonders for sly Stallone and other stars even people in my gym who have used it change in appearance quiet quickly when I say quickly I mean over a 6 month period and they used a test based steroid cycle even friends I used to be in the army with have used gh for short periods just for fat loss that why I can't understand why it won't work for me ?
One of my main issues is getting my head in the game and I feel when on gear I'm there but when I'm not my motivation is zero, and when I get like that it frustrates me as I've always loved the gym as a youngster!

One big difference is age. It works MUCH better for us older guys. 38 you are borderline for it helping at all. As said it's not magic and you will need 2x as much as someone say 45 to get the same or any results.

I also agree, it would be foolish to run any aas with it at your current bf and there is no reason to run anything until you have your diet in check; meaning your diet is VERY good and you have been running it consistently for at least 6 months and in the gym full time with your body-fat down to under 15%

The above in bold is also the same logic that most every 18yr old uses in regards to using AAS and Arnold. It just doesn't add up, they are not Arnold, you are not Stallone. Both of them have personal trainers, personal cooks, their diets are spot on and they have doctors monitoring their blood work probably weekly. Especially with HGH age is a big factor. The older you are the more benefits, under 40 it's minimal.

I don't want anything else answering just other people's opinion as I have spent alot of cash on the hgh now and was hoping its not going to be wasted

It wont be wasted if you put it in the refrigerator and leave it there until you are physically, mentally and emotionally ready. It will keep for quite a long time un-constituted, no worries. You will know when you are ready because you wont be in a rush anymore and you will look & feel good already. If you use it now then it's almost just as much of a waste as throwing it away.

Why buy high octane race gas for a high mileage older stock car? You wont get/feel any performance from it. Put it into a newer modified engine and you can defiantly feel the difference. Pretty much the same with aas.

[Coolhand5599]

no offense but take a second to look it up. It the "important threads eveyone should read" there is a sticky about it

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.Tw8_zIH6KJo

What is he difference between T3 and T4?

[TRYER]

lovbyts thank you very much this has put my mind at rest no im going to take 6 months to lose the weight loads of cardio and clean diet with only 2 full body weight workouts a week then hit the hgh

[ArmyMan04]

ill buy the gh from you if you don't want it. =]

[M302_Imola]

Why do you need to take t4 with gh? Does that apply to peptides as well?

No need for T4 when on peptides alone