New to AAS, had some questions about a 1st ever cycle :hello:

[Fari]

Hello,

I've been researching about steroids for a couple months, and decided that I was going to go through with my first ever cycle and go with Test only to see how things pan out from there. First a few things about myself:

I'm 26 years old, 6"0 185 lbs male, BF around 15-19% and have been in the gym on and off for about 2-3 years, but have been actively playing soccer/basketball for about 10 years. I have never used any steroids but have been taking protein and creatine as supplements. My goals are to be at around 205-215lbs, reduce my overall BF to around 10-12%, and gain alot more strengh and keep most of the gains.

First off, which kind of Testosterone is recommended for the first ever cycle, Test-E, cypionate, propionate etc? I know that the side effects of all are fairly similar, and im aiming to take about 400-500mgs per week for about a 14 week period. Please correct me if this the wrong dose, or time frame for my goals.

I was wondering if I'll be absolutely needing any PCT once my cycle is done with the dosage above? if so what is recommended and when should I begin the dosage? I understand that this is depended on the Ester. Feel free to let me know if I've missed anything crucial and I appreicate any advice you guys can give to a newbie

Many thanks,
Fari

[gixxerboy1]

i would work on getting down a good nutritional plan first. If your almost 19% at your hieght and weight you would be pretty thin if you leaned up. You need to get a proper diet first. You will never meet your goal if you don't. No matter what you take

Yes you need pct. And stick with test e or cyp for a first cycle and i would keep it at 10-12 weeks

[Skills]

Test is Test. Take Test E or C so you can do one or two injections a week. Yes, you will need to do PCT. Everyone is different. You just have to give it a go, monitor and adapt and see how it pans out.

[Fari]

Thanks for the insight guys, I'll go ahead with Test-E and see how things go. I will take your advice on upping my caloric intake to get the mass I desire. Lastly would a simple week of arimidex return my test levels to normal range?

[gixxerboy1]

arimidex isnt for pct. Read the pct section and make sure you have everything before you start. But i would straighten out the diet first and gain naturally for a while first

[Fari]

Understood, thanks again for the help gixxerboy1!

[gixxerboy1]

no problem good luck

[Fari]

Hi guys,

So I pulled the trigger and got my hand on two 10ML Test-E dosed at 250mg/ml. I'm outlining my cycle/diet/workout below, please critique away.

Pinning every Monday and Thursday @250mg for 10 weeks. starting my PCT two weeks after my last pin with Nolva at 40/40/20/20, I also have Aromasin on hand if any Gyno or other Estrogen side effects do spring up, but I'm not planning on dosing from the start. Have access to HCG but I'm not running it while on as I've read that it's unnecessary for a newbie cycle. I also looked into getting the Primordial performances Test recovery stack for PCT, but not quite sure if it would be overkill since I have the Nolva.

I plan on eating roughly 2,500-3,000 calories a day, and aim to hit at least 290g in Protein and about 180g in Carbs(mostly Potatoes, Rice,Vegetables, and whole fruits. trying to cut out the sugar, bread, and Pasta. Would I need a caloric increase to reach my goal weight of ~210? I also recently realized that my BF % is most like higher than %20...I can post a picture if need be.

Last but not least my work out consists of the below:

Monday: Squat 5x5, Flat bench 5x5, incline bench 5x5, bent over rows 5x5, 3x10 of hyperextensions, 3x10 weighted sit ups, 10-15 min cardio(stairmaster) afterwards

Wednesday: Squat 5x5, Flat bench 5x5, incline bench 5x5, DeadLift 5x5, 3x10 weighted sit ups 10-15 min cardio(stairmaster) afterwards

Friday: Squat 5x5, Flat bench 5x5, incline bench 5x5, bent over rows 5x5, 3x10 of weighted dips, 3x10 barbell bicep curls, 3x10 Triceps extensions, 10-15 min cardio(stairmaster) afterwards

Sunday: Squat 5x5, Flat bench 5x5, incline bench 5x5, Bent over row 5x5, 3x10 shoulder press, 3x10 standing military press, 3x10 weighted situps, 10-15 min cardio(stairmaster) afterwards.

Reason why there is so much bench in my routine is that I cannot bench more than my body wight currently and have been struggling, and I was hoping this would help boost my bench. I do have long arms so not sure if that contributes to it.I was planning on hitting the gym 5 times a week while on, is this wise or should I stick to the schedule above of 4 days? I was also wondering how my training should change during my PCT? should I taper the weights down for my sets? go only 3 times a week to the gym? please let me know how intense I should be working my body during PCT to boost natural Test levels.

Sorry for the long essay and array of questions, but I am planning on pinning today and I'm really excited for my first cycle and the gains, so let me know your thoughts on the above and anything else you care to share. In case you missed it I am a healthy Male 6"0, 26 years old (turning 27 soon) ~195lbs now and have never done any AAS. Max 1RM lifts are: Squats: 315lbs, DeadLift: 365lbs, Bench: 185lbs. I believe the BF% is around 20-25 but I would like to tone it down a bit as I do not have any visible abdominals at the moment.

Thanks in advance!
Fari

[Thor249]

I wouldn't start the cycle at your bf%. You will probably do more bad than good, you should drop down to at least 14/15% naturally and then do the cycle.

The reason you don't want to start at high fat is because you have a much higher potential to expirience estrogen sides.

Also you need to remember test doesn't burn fat off, that's all dependent on your diet.

I know it's hard to wait but set the vials aside and cut the body fat down.

[tlash88]

From the research I have done, hcg is still needed even with a newbie cycle... Just my .02 cents though man.

[ThatAthlete82]

Your cycle and PCT are fine. I strongly suggest that you cut down the BF%. This is your first cycle and you don't know how your body will react, your chances for gyno/libido loss are high because of your BF%-not withstanding you could be prone regardless. Your workout routine could use a lot of work in my opinion.

Do you really plan on 5x5 for 10 weeks straight/doing those exercises(lacks supplemental work)?
Why ending with cardio if you want to bulk ~20 lbs?
Why so much protein?
Do you have a macro breakdown in mind?

[songdog]

You need to listen to Gix beacuse if you eat all those cals + aas at the end of your cycle you will be fatter.You need to cut weight before you cycle.

[Fari]

Thanks for all your reply guys, I did not go ahead with the shot yesterday as I definitely want to work on getting my BF% down before starting.

1) Now for the workout routine would you suggest I go with the Anabolic workout that is listed on this site? reason why I was a little hesitant was that I really enjoy doing compound exercises everyday and I've never really isolated each muscle group in a week so I will be giving it a try once I go on.

2) I've never incorporated cardio into my workout, I play basketball for ~2hours, twice a week so I've felt that was sufficient enough for my cardio.

3) As for the protein I have read that you need 1.5 gram per lbs of body weight, I weight in about 195 now so thats roughly 290grams per day, let me know if this is too high.

4)To be honest I have not really looked at the macro breakdown as much as I should, but I was thinking 65% Carbs, 25% Protein, and 15% Fat based on a 3,000 calorie diet.

Now another question I had was, what if I incorporate a fat cutting steroid into my cycle, say Anavar for 50mg per day for the firsr 6 weeks, would that help me reduce my BF% with a strict diet? any others you may suggest, or should I do this natrually through cardio and diet. Sorry for all the questions again and I really do appreciate all the advice that you guys are giving me here.

Best,
Fari

[ThatAthlete82]

I think you will get a lot more out of your workouts if you isolate a muscle group each day. Assuming you want to lift 4 days a week, a standard routine could be: MON(Glutes,Hams), TUES(Chest,Tris),WED(Off),THUR(Biceps/Back/Lat),Friday(Calve,Forearm?). You should really go to the workout section because I can't give you a specific routine, especially since I don't know your lifting background.

The general rule is a gram of protein per lb of body weight, many will tell you x1.5/x1.8. That macro you suggested is high on the carbs. Go to the diet section and post your stats+goals for a more specific diet routine.

Anavar would help cut fat, but by a negligible amount because you will be eating above maintinence. Just an aside: lean bulking(gaining muscle+cutting fat) is very hard to do effectively because the requirements to do either are at odds with each other(in a sense). I'd suggest you do one or the other, but that's your call.